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#4067733 - 01/22/15 05:41 PM
Vaping instead of smoking
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One of my kids bought me a Vaping device.
This is my first day trying it so far it has reduced my need for cigarettes by a moderate amount.
I am a very heavy smoker a pack and a half a day no problem.
So for my health and wealth's sake I intend to reduce my intake this year.
Of Course giving up is best option but not realistic in my case.
Have any of you guys tried Vaping, if so how did it go for you did it help reduce your need for cigarettes.
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#4067768 - 01/22/15 06:32 PM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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I had quit smoking for a few years, but my wife hadn't. I got into this with her to help get her off smoking and also because I thought I'd enjoy it without the smell and breathing issues of smoking. I don't want to go down that road again. Ditch the Blu or other similar e-cigs you see advertised on tv. They're a PITA, not consistent, less productive and EXPENSIVE even if you get into refilling them. Go with one that uses no filter media, just a tank and a replaceable coil. Watch the voltage, certain amounts are recommended for certain coils. This is the type we use, but there is a larger battery you can get: http://www.evcigarettes.com/kanger-evod-650mah-bc-clearomizer-starter-kit/Order your "juice" to refill and you can usually choose the nicotine level (even 0 nicotine), PG/VG ratio (propylene glycol/vegetable glycerin), if you want it sweetened and of course the flavor. It's fun trying out flavors. Get a small sample before buying a bottle, it lasts a long time. Learn about PG and VG. VG is more vapor producing and some flavor, PG is more of the smoke feel (throat hit) and sweeter. Start with a 50/50 mix, that's what we settled on. Blu is 100% VG, which is why it "feels" lacking. Eversmoke and the relabeled copies use 30/70(VG/PG). For us, we prefer to stick to coffee flavors. You have to put away the idea that this is just like smoking, because it isn't. You get the physical motion like it, you get nicotine (if you want) but the feel and taste will be different, so don't try to replicate but just find something you like. That's the reason for flavors, not attracting kids like some have claimed. (IMO) A good site for just the juice: http://www.virginvapor.com/#Enjoy!
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#4067793 - 01/22/15 07:07 PM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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Be a man and just quit. Smoke the last pack and then never ever smoke again. Take a couple of weeks off so you don't have to suffer through work.
Rememeber that you never know what you inhale with that vaping crap. It's a virtually unregulated business as far as I know and while they may kill you less effectively that tobacco, you're bound to get a nasty surprise in the not so distant future.
If there is one thing in the world that deserves fanatical opposition it's the tobacco industry... that and third person perspective computer games.
Good luck man! Who knows, you may live to see the new carrier ops in DCS.
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#4067846 - 01/22/15 08:28 PM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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Be a man and just quit. Smoke the last pack and then never ever smoke again. Take a couple of weeks off so you don't have to suffer through work.
Rememeber that you never know what you inhale with that vaping crap. It's a virtually unregulated business as far as I know and while they may kill you less effectively that tobacco, you're bound to get a nasty surprise in the not so distant future.
If there is one thing in the world that deserves fanatical opposition it's the tobacco industry... that and third person perspective computer games.
Good luck man! Who knows, you may live to see the new carrier ops in DCS.
-C- Went cold turkey many years ago lasted twelve months and was like an antichrist for all of that time. It changed my personality and not for the better. My plan this time is reduction not quitting if I can get my usage down to half pack a day Using vaping I will be happy with that. even better if I can switch totally to vaping To early to say yet but I have smoked less so far today I am still on my first pack I would normally have started my second one by Now.
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#4067929 - 01/22/15 10:53 PM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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You'll be a man regardless. That was an asinine comment.
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#4067972 - 01/23/15 12:10 AM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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A smoker going from cigarettes to vaping is like an alcoholic going from vodka to wine.
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#4068184 - 01/23/15 01:58 PM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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#4068199 - 01/23/15 02:31 PM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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I quit smoking about 30 years ago, I was a 2 pack a day smoker. I quit 'one day'. The first week was hard. Then it was just the 'motion' of putting something in my mouth, so I ate candys. For about a year. I still missed the movement, hand to mouth....I've found that was the hardest habit to break. The nicotine was easier to give up, than the 'habit'. The 'motion'. I suspect that's why people that give up smoking eat a lot. Also I suspect smoking a vapor cigarette will not do much good, unless your going to carry that vapor cigarette for life, like a pacifier. But it would certainly beat smoking a cigarette. That's just 'insane'. INSANE! You gotta stop, it's literally, killing you. Cold turkey worked for me. But it's hard. Life is hard  Dying...is easy.
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#4068227 - 01/23/15 03:13 PM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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Ignore the asinine comments. Quitting is easier for some people than others.
I tried cold turkey many, many times and felt absolutely miserable and was unbearable each time.
I finally quit by using Nicorette brand nicotine gum. I chewed that gum for a looong time (about a year) and cut down to three pieces of gum a day. Then I chewed regular gum that had the same flavor (cinnamon) for about a month, just to fool myself, and haven't chewed in over three years...
Good luck Marko. Think about how your clothes/car/house will smell better, you'll be saving money (even the gum is cheaper than ciggies, at least in Canada) and how you'll be setting a good example for your children. Think about how the craving is actually a GOOD sign: it's an indication that your body is getting cleansed of the nicotine.
Hope that helps. Never vaped and haven't researched it, but it strikes me that vaping would perpetuate the smoking "ritual" (i.e. positive associations between relaxing/down-time with the hit of nicotine) which makes it so hard initially not to have a cigarette with the morning or at the bar.
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#4068243 - 01/23/15 03:44 PM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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Do some research into the various smoke juices. Most contain propylene glycol. Now its FDA approved and is used in things like tooth paste, but something tells me its probably not the best thing ever to ingest. Oh, to me it tastes like huffing some chemical. Still, its way better than a cigarette. This is how I got to stop smoking a pack a day. Someone bought be a couple types of e-cigs to try. One was bad....propylene glycol which I seem to have issues with. The other used vegetable gycerin and that was the one that got me to knock it off. Started with full power 2.4 percent nicotine and now down to 0.6 percent. Goal is to knock of the vaping at some point. Soon I will start mixing my 0.6 with 0.0 smoke juice to get lower. Then finally 0.0 for however long. But vaping is NOT a stop getting your nico fix product. But you do have some control over how much you stick into yourself if you start buying various smoke juices. And I highly recommend Johnson Creek. Their Red Oak line is what I use. Final thought, not all smoke juice is remotely made the same. Some might make bad combos of things together that when heated make compounds you really don't want to ingest. Even then, better than a smoking a cig. https://www.johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com/ REd oak line of ingredients list. USP Grade vegetable glycerin, deionized water, nicotine, natural flavors (basically suger), artificial flavors (think soda flavors), and citric acid as a preservative. Good luck.... First couple weeks switching is kind of hard. At around week 3 or 4 vaping I tried to smoke a regular pack of camels. I nearly puked. So something good had happened.
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#4068298 - 01/23/15 05:34 PM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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Do some research into the various smoke juices. Most contain propylene glycol. Now its FDA approved and is used in things like tooth paste, but something tells me its probably not the best thing ever to ingest. Oh, to me it tastes like huffing some chemical. Still, its way better than a cigarette. This is how I got to stop smoking a pack a day. Someone bought be a couple types of e-cigs to try. One was bad....propylene glycol which I seem to have issues with. The other used vegetable gycerin and that was the one that got me to knock it off. Started with full power 2.4 percent nicotine and now down to 0.6 percent. Goal is to knock of the vaping at some point. Soon I will start mixing my 0.6 with 0.0 smoke juice to get lower. Then finally 0.0 for however long. But vaping is NOT a stop getting your nico fix product. But you do have some control over how much you stick into yourself if you start buying various smoke juices. And I highly recommend Johnson Creek. Their Red Oak line is what I use. Final thought, not all smoke juice is remotely made the same. Some might make bad combos of things together that when heated make compounds you really don't want to ingest. Even then, better than a smoking a cig. https://www.johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com/ REd oak line of ingredients list. USP Grade vegetable glycerin, deionized water, nicotine, natural flavors (basically suger), artificial flavors (think soda flavors), and citric acid as a preservative. Good luck.... First couple weeks switching is kind of hard. At around week 3 or 4 vaping I tried to smoke a regular pack of camels. I nearly puked. So something good had happened. Thanks for the advice guys. But just to clarify it was never my intention to completely quit. My intention is to reduce my intake So far so good have already reduced by half a pack yesterday. And will probably do the same today.
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#4068364 - 01/23/15 07:10 PM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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Good luck with it mate; i wonder if some of the smug comments come from ex-smokers; nothing worse for evangalising than an ex-smoker! Was listening to a programme about vaping on the BBC. One interesting side benefit was people using the flavoured juices found they lost appetite or craving for sweet things so counter-balancing the seemingly inevitable weight gain whilst quitting. One woman who had an addiction to chocolate suddenly noticed she had shed a couple of stone without realising. Some others said they once they had reduced to zero nicotine in the mix they lost interest and gave up both altogether.
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#4068369 - 01/23/15 07:23 PM
Re: Vaping instead of smoking
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Do some research into the various smoke juices. Most contain propylene glycol. Now its FDA approved and is used in things like tooth paste, but something tells me its probably not the best thing ever to ingest. Oh, to me it tastes like huffing some chemical. Still, its way better than a cigarette. This is how I got to stop smoking a pack a day. Someone bought be a couple types of e-cigs to try. One was bad....propylene glycol which I seem to have issues with. The other used vegetable gycerin and that was the one that got me to knock it off. Started with full power 2.4 percent nicotine and now down to 0.6 percent. Goal is to knock of the vaping at some point. Soon I will start mixing my 0.6 with 0.0 smoke juice to get lower. Then finally 0.0 for however long. But vaping is NOT a stop getting your nico fix product. But you do have some control over how much you stick into yourself if you start buying various smoke juices. And I highly recommend Johnson Creek. Their Red Oak line is what I use. Final thought, not all smoke juice is remotely made the same. Some might make bad combos of things together that when heated make compounds you really don't want to ingest. Even then, better than a smoking a cig. https://www.johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com/ REd oak line of ingredients list. USP Grade vegetable glycerin, deionized water, nicotine, natural flavors (basically suger), artificial flavors (think soda flavors), and citric acid as a preservative. Good luck.... First couple weeks switching is kind of hard. At around week 3 or 4 vaping I tried to smoke a regular pack of camels. I nearly puked. So something good had happened. Thanks for the advice guys. But just to clarify it was never my intention to completely quit. My intention is to reduce my intake So far so good have already reduced by half a pack yesterday. And will probably do the same today. Well when you release that its 3 or 4 times cheaper with vaping and it gives you your fix you might say screw the burning paper and tobacco. And it certainly helps that its like 99 percent less awful for you. My fear is that as sin taxes for tobacco bring in less and less revenue they will end up trying to tax at the same rate for E-cigs. But even at its worst you have gone from a carcinogen factory to something more like drinking way to much coffee. Nicotine the drug aint that bad for you. May even have some good points. Just stupid addictive. And its delivery methods of burning things will most likely kill you in the long run. Bad side of it is alot like coffee. Increased circulatory issues. Higher blood pressure. Things like that. By itself probably not a big deal to a healthy person. Added to being over weight and lack of exercise it will not help at all. Just like caffeine. Nicotine is a real interesting drug. Much more so than caffeine.
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#4068606 - 01/24/15 07:44 AM
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Went cold turkey many years ago lasted twelve months and was like an antichrist for all of that time.
It changed my personality and not for the better.
My plan this time is reduction not quitting if I can get my usage down to half pack a day
Using vaping I will be happy with that. even better if I can switch totally to vaping
To early to say yet but I have smoked less so far today I am still on my first pack I would normally have started my second one by Now.
Bottom line is, they don't know what the long term effects are. Go back to being antichrist instead. Take up some physical activity to get some of those good chemicals flowing in your brain again. That will mellow you out until your brain is de-toxed. -C-
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