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#3474720 - 12/15/11 06:35 PM M4 jams on soldier.  
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#3474741 - 12/15/11 07:05 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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Could be a number of things. Hard to tell. His techniques were poor. Incorrect immediate action. Also, bad procedures such as pulling the charging handle rather than tapping the bolt release. My first guess is poorly maintained weapon and magazines. It looked like he had the magazines laid out. Should be upside down in magazine pouch. Keeps the clean. If you get dirt in the top of a magazine, it will muck up the. Chamber for any following magazines.

And then what was with waving the rifle around like that ?


His techniques are so bad that it makes me think his maintenance probably was too.


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#3474742 - 12/15/11 07:06 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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hrmm, the deciding variable Soldier or n00b dressed up as a soldier?


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#3474746 - 12/15/11 07:09 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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He obviously forgot the SPORTS pnemotic

SLAP (the bottom of the magazine)
PULL (Charging Handle)
OBSERVE (the Chamber)
RELEASE (Charging Handle)
TAP (Forward Assist for the bolt housing)
SQUEEZE (Trigger)

He had the pull and release down well. Of course it is easy for me to say these things sitting in my living room listening to the Waddle and Silvy show on ESPN1000 and drinking another cup of coffee.


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#3474747 - 12/15/11 07:09 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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Watch to see if he does SPORTS.

Nope.

Tom posted while I was typing.

SPORTS is the correct immediate action that I referred to in my first post. And he was doing the release wrong. You release with the bolt catch/release after magazine change , not by pulling the charging handle again.

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#3474755 - 12/15/11 07:23 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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hrmm, looks kinda young and confused.

Why would you have your sleeves rolled up, but be wearing gloves and other protective gear

Why would you be wearing a vest and not a helmet in a fire fight, considering his head is whats actually exposed when he leans out to take the shots. and when he sits up to play with the rifle from the 2:00 mark onward his head is exposed over the top of the barrier.

I can maybe justify the sunglasses,, but I'd use either clear or "HD Vision" Yellow tinted safety classes over them heavy tinted and REFLECTIVE glasses he's got on.

also, as pointed out before SPORTS, not this crap he's doing, most soldiers get enough training to know what to do, he seems to panic, and change clips every other jam, waves his weapon around in the path of the bullets, he's lucky his weapon wasn't hit, let alone his hand and exposed arm, and he's lucky he didnt take a ricochet off the weapon, or off the barrier into his head.

and why the eff would you be playing with a camera pointed at yourself.... this isnt myspace.


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#3474886 - 12/15/11 10:02 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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what is a "nasty girl" unit ?

#3474893 - 12/15/11 10:14 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Originally Posted By: Blade_RJ
what is a "nasty girl" unit ?


Slang for National Guard


Although I can't view the video, I am certain it's as described, where SOldier failed to perform SPORTS correctly and had bad Techniques, Tactics and Procedures (TTP's) within his unit. Not to mention chain of command probably fialed to conduct pre-combat checks (PCC) before moving out as well.

My experiecen is the M4 is highly capable of prefomring in all conditions if properly maintained and utilized. Never had any bad moments with it.

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#3474901 - 12/15/11 10:22 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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He should have looked down the barrel to see if he could spot the problem in there.

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#3474903 - 12/15/11 10:31 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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Also forgot to add, not sure why more unit's are not punishing or prohibiting Soldiers from taking video footage while they are actively on patrol. It amazes me how many want their 2 minutes of Youtube fame at the potential sake of getting themselves killed or their battle buddy, just to get some "cool" footage to show the lookie lou's back home that they are bonafide combatants. How about keeping your situational awareness about yourself and others versus pulling out the camera or phone to record what often is reckless or dangerous? Maybe I'm just too grizzled and old school.

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#3474904 - 12/15/11 10:37 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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You can release the bolt via the charging handle without any problems IF you don't ride it forward like he did every time. It will cycle just as well as using the bolt release, though it takes a bit longer to do. I was also wondering about the video myself, while watching it.

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I think you're missing the reason for the very specfic steps observed while performing SPORTS. When you pull the charging handle to the rear, you are holding it back to inspect or OBSERVE (hence the O in SPORTS)the chamber for multiple rounds fed, ie blockage and to ensure it's cleared before proceeding. Otherwise, if you just allow bolt to go forward by releasing the charging handle, you will not know what's causing the malfunction in the chamber, if it's the culprit in question. It could also be a over stretched magazine spring, bad retainer lip on magazine, improperly fed round, dirt, etc...

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#3474918 - 12/15/11 10:56 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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Obviously an idiot who thinks this video of himself is "cool," too stupid to realize how stoopeed he actually is.


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#3474919 - 12/15/11 10:58 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
Obviously an idiot who thinks this video of himself is "cool," too stupid to realize how stoopeed he actually is.


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#3474933 - 12/15/11 11:22 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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Matt, good comments. Note my comments on releasing the bolt are after changing magazines, not as part of immediate action.

Yeah, I'm of "the old ways" too.


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Originally Posted By: oldgrognard
Matt, good comments. Note my comments on releasing the bolt are after changing magazines, not as part of immediate action.

Yeah, I'm of "the old ways" too.


Old ways I think are often better, though not always most productive in today's society...ask my kids.

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#3474944 - 12/15/11 11:34 PM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: Navigator]  
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Ft Lewis - Lightfighter ?


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#3474958 - 12/16/11 12:05 AM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: strykerpsg]  
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Originally Posted By: strykerpsg
Also forgot to add, not sure why more unit's are not punishing or prohibiting Soldiers from taking video footage while they are actively on patrol. It amazes me how many want their 2 minutes of Youtube fame at the potential sake of getting themselves killed or their battle buddy, just to get some "cool" footage to show the lookie lou's back home that they are bonafide combatants. How about keeping your situational awareness about yourself and others versus pulling out the camera or phone to record what often is reckless or dangerous? Maybe I'm just too grizzled and old school.

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#3474960 - 12/16/11 12:08 AM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted By: oldgrognard
Ft Lewis - Lightfighter ?


25th ID Lightfighters.....to light to fight to heavy to run as we used to say biggrin

#3474964 - 12/16/11 12:14 AM Re: M4 jams on soldier. [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted By: oldgrognard
Ft Lewis - Lightfighter ?

Yes, through and through, though now have a cool battlefield taxi.. the Stryker.

Also, watched the video on my cell phone. I think it was all staged so he would have something to make him look cool for his family back home. As his PSG or 1SG, I would have shot the rock pile he was hiding behind for him not wearing his ACH (Helmet), then would have thrashed his a** for making a video if we were indeed defending our COP or patrol base, bcause if you notice, he ensure's he's never out of video range of his recording source.

Secondly, he had malfunctions because it looked as though he reinserted the same deficient magazine he orignally had issues with. A rookie mistake in the heat of the moment. Also, not sure why the nasty girl comment came up, I never once heard or saw anything posted regarding that. His patch was a 101st unit, which suprised me as to the discipine of the Soldier as portrayed in the video.


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