#3299672 - 05/20/11 04:05 PM
Paccus Hydraulic Force Feedback Joystick Now Available for Purchase
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http://www.paccus.nl/I think they priced themselves right out of the market. For the people that can afford these, they probably have better and more fun things to do and won't even have any interest. So uh...when someone ponies up the cash for one of these, please let us know if it's worth a few grand! I will not be one of those "someone". There are two versions, which are the following: Paccus Hawk: 2,397 Euros Paccus Falcon: 1,647 Euros From their FAQ: Why are these sticks much higher priced than expected?
Earlier in the development process we thought about mass production. Later we realized we dont want to compromise on the quality. Not on a single aspect.
So what you get is:
- Expensive brushless motors these are not subject to wear. - Contactless HALL effect sensors high resolution (12 bits), no wear. - Zero backlash. - No wear. - No deadzone. - No fixed centerpoint. - Reliable, expensive materials long lasting. - CNC-ed aluminium grip. - Any color you like on the anodized aluminium.
and above all: the most realistic flying or gaming experience!
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#3300106 - 05/21/11 01:39 AM
Re: Paccus Hydraulic Force Feedback Joystick Now Available for Purchase
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Each to their own of course...but that is one ugly looking stick!
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#3300290 - 05/21/11 09:56 AM
Re: Paccus Hydraulic Force Feedback Joystick Now Available for Purchase
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Each to their own of course...but that is one ugly looking stick! Not to mention the ergonomics look questionable at best.
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#3300393 - 05/21/11 02:58 PM
Re: Paccus Hydraulic Force Feedback Joystick Now Available for Purchase
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I can think of a lot better ways to spend 3000 bucks. That's rediculous.
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#3300441 - 05/21/11 04:37 PM
Re: Paccus Hydraulic Force Feedback Joystick Now Available for Purchase
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I don't see this being a big seller.
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#3300980 - 05/22/11 04:43 PM
Re: Paccus Hydraulic Force Feedback Joystick Now Available for Purchase
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That's a disappointment. When they showed pictures of the stick, I thought it was just a mock up, and they would put a REAL stick handle, that's actually usable in before the went into production.
Plus you still need a throttle, rudder pedals, and we have no idea if we'll see REAL software supporting the stick. A harsh blow is also dealt by poor FF support in CloD.
Sorry Paccus, but the above are all requirements if you want to play the premium peripheral game.
If it was a generic stick, with a more tactical layout like the G940 or suncom talon, I could see paying $500. The reason being that with decent software, this could be both a FF stick, and an adjustable rate "static" stick, as it lacks an FF deadzone. It would indeed be the last stick you'd ever have to own.
As is, they're charging $2000+ (I'm not even bothering to go look up the current conversion rate) for a WWII style stick, when the latest WWII game won't even really support it.
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#3310042 - 06/03/11 01:30 PM
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Well as of today June 3rd, 2011 it appears they have rethought their pricing in some respects but they are still out of their minds....prices with a caveat for shipping is as follows: Paccus Hawk Old Price: 1,997.00 Price: 1,427.00 You save: 570.00! (28.54%)
Paccus Falcon Old Price: 1,647.00 Price: 1,197.00 You save: 450.00! (27.32%)
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#3310068 - 06/03/11 02:01 PM
Re: Paccus Hydraulic Force Feedback Joystick Now Available for Purchase
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they could have made it Cougar / warthog handle compatible to make it more appealing.
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#3310088 - 06/03/11 02:20 PM
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they could have made it Cougar / warthog handle compatible to make it more appealing. The stick doesn't offer anything revolutionary except (guessing here) high fidelity FF. And for that price, I'd rather buy 10x MSFF2 sticks which have proven them selves over 10 years of use and are recognized by the community as a benchmark for quality. I can not predict anything else other than failure for this product because of its 'biblical' price.
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#3319112 - 06/15/11 04:52 AM
Re: Paccus Hydraulic Force Feedback Joystick Now Available for Purchase
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I wonder if they sold any yet?
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#3319146 - 06/15/11 06:12 AM
Re: Paccus Hydraulic Force Feedback Joystick Now Available for Purchase
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I wonder how much they invested in research and development
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#3341871 - 07/14/11 06:33 PM
Re: Paccus Hydraulic Force Feedback Joystick Now Available for Purchase
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They just built a stick with no projected market for it. Then they priced themselves insanely high. I guess they'll sell a couple to curious gamers with more cash then sense, but not enough to break even. Pity.
It's such a niche product, but they didn't shoot for any sims available now so it'll be very hard to sell.
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