Hello
Currently using TM Warthog in directX mode
Flying with latest patch
No problems with the stick. Or the Sim
Question
I have assigned the paddle switch button#4 on the stick as my modifier
I would like to use Mike down button on the throttle to send a “keyboard key” to activate my
“VAC program” but still keep The original A-10-C radio function

Original: Mike button
Modified” “Scroll key”

How do I accomplish this?
I can’t get past assigning the modifier button.
Whhere in the controls box do I add the modifier?
I have read the manual and looked at the board here.
But I’m just net getting it thru my head.
Any help would be appreciated.
Bonnex

bonnex -
Here are some screenies I was able to capture with Fraps -

The Landing Gear is a modified switch


First I made the stick's (unused) Paddle Switch a Modifier


Then I open the Add window for the *throttle* and put the Modifier in, and then the HOTAS switch/button (21)


Here's what it looks like when done


Wrecking Crew

Thanks for the quick reply WC
But how do you add a "KEYBOARD KEY"? Right now all I can input is a button. In the throttle I would like to have the
"ScrOll Lock key" generated with the modifier.
Does this Make sence?
Thanks again
Edwin

Ahhh, you have to program that in the VAC program.

It's like I want Mic Up to activate the Teamspeak - I cannot do that assignment in A-10C - I have to assign Mic Up in Teamspeak.

Some programs won't see the DirectX buttons. For instance, I want to assign the Mic Up also to Fraps audio capture but Fraps can't see the WH Throttle buttons.

Hope that helps...

WC

Right.... I think that's the problem
Vac does not accept dx button only keyboard commands to activate. Right now I'm having reach for the keyboard to turn it on-off.

So in other words Thru A10-C using the warthog in direct x mode I can't assign a generic keyboard command ie x,y,z, etc. thru the modifier button. Is this correct.?
Thanks again
Bonnex

Bonnex,

No, not through A-10C. A-10C maps controller inputs to in-game functions. Pressing the Scroll Lock key is not an in-game function.

You could use T.A.R.G.E.T. to map one of the buttons to a keyboard key command, but I'm not very familiar with utility.

Bonnex -
You can assign any (preferrably unused) HOTAS button as a Modifier - such as Mic Up, Throttle's Microstick In, Stick's Paddle Switch. The Modifier allows you to assign it with another HOTAS button to perform an additional function.

In my example above, I assigned the Gear Up/Down to the same Throttle button as the L/G WRN 'Silence' button. The Modifier Paddle Switch lets me use the 'Silence' button for a second function - the gear.

I think you're thinking that the Modifier assignment will also trigger that key to do what it would normally do by itself in addition to the HOTAS button doing what it normally does - no, it doesn't work like that.

You can probably use the TM HOTAS Target program to do what you want, but I don't use it, never have. Teej is an expert on that.


Keep the questions coming in case I'm still not giving the answers you need.

WC

Thanks Eistein
I was afraid of that.
Having the Warthog in directx mode, working so great with A-10C right out of the box.
No way I'll make a TARGET file...for this sim
I'll just have to make due.
Thanks for all the info
Bonnex out...................................

bonnex, go and download Helios. When that's done, do the following:

1. Go to Helios and click Profile > Add Interface
2. Add DCS A10C and your TM Warthog throttle
3. On the bottom-center of the Helios window, where it says Bindings, click the Output tab
4. On the Actions window, open your Interfaces > Keyboard and on the Bindings window, select the button you want (verify with the image on the top-center of the Helios window), in my example I used Button 2 which is Mic Switch In
5. Drag the "send keys" from the Actions window onto the button you want (in my case, button 2)
6. On the Value box under the Properties window, enter the PTT button you have set your VAC profile on, in my example it is Right ALT so I put in RALT





Here is a picture of step #6 for clarification:



Each time the Button 2 is pressed, Helios will make it seem like you just pressed your VAC PTT button.

Hope that helps!

In CH Control Manager you can change each individual button/axis to run either DX mode or a button assignment...does TARGET not allow that?

Or maybe I'm not understanding the question clearly...

The problem is that in VAC, you can assign PTT to a key press and not a directX button like in TS3. Then the only way to assign a "button press" to a joystick or throttle button is to "map" it via TARGET. However, mapping a button in TARGET messes with the plug-and-play compatibility of the TM Warthog and DCS A10C. Thus the easiest way of maintaining PnP and getting a button press detected is via Helios, whose interface is rather difficult to understand initially.

I think the OP wanted a shifted button state as his VAC PTT and wanted to know how to do it and thought this could be done via the in-game DCS control setup.

Ice!!!!!
That did the trick, and more.
I had no idea Helios could do that.
'Was just using helios to display info and buttons.
But WOW. I have attached additional functions to unused buttons on the stick and thr.
works great.
Thanks again.
Bonnex out............................

Glad you got it sorted. Thought I was going to have to post my Warthog target profile here. As far as Helios is concerned, I wish I had known about before I took the time to set evwerything up through target....

Welcome to SimHQ Spectre!

bonnex, glad I could help. Which VAC profile are you using? Or have you made your own? Still in the middle of making my profile, on hold at the moment due to Falcon BMS.

I wouldn't mind taking a look at either one of your profiles. Can't possibly be as bad as mine

I have bee using vac for a while now with other Sims
I only use about %5 percent of this softwares capabilities
Simple coms on/off and single activation prhases
Look over at this youtube video for a proper way to implement this program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ8_zj5eWlk&feature=related
Just mind-blowing.
BTW I'm still just using the A-10c tutorials and easy single missions
6 weeks in, and honestly too afraid to jump into the campaign.
I have never been so intimidated by a flight sim like this beast.
You really have to have all these external tools to get the most out of this Sim IMHO.
And this from a old vet Simmer
Flanker------->Lomac FC2
Next up.! 2 usb 7" monitor to go over Helios and my T.M. MFD's.
And thanks all for the great input on SimHQ.
Could not have done this undertaking alone.
Bonnex

TBH I've not even played much of the campaign missions as well. I'd say 98% of my flying is done online, with human pilots who are just as inept as myself And if you haven't heard yet, the SimHQ A10 crowd takes on all new pilots, regardless of flying skill, so no pressure on you to "know your stuff" just to fly online with us.

As for tools, well, all I have is the TM Warthog, TM MFDs, Saitek pedals, and TrackIR... which would probably be standard stuff for your average flight simmer. HOTAS, pedals, TIR as baseline, MFDs for those who fly modern aircraft... A second monitor would be handy too, but I've managed without it so far.

Roger That..
Bonnex

P.S. on a related note
What is proper key value for the "enter/return" key in Helios?

I keeps outputing the "keypad enter" key
I need it to be the main keyboad "enter/return" key
Using to toggle the control indicator box as my visual trim reference "Rcontrol + enter/retun"

Hmmm... I have that control indicator re-mapped to just Enter instead of RCTRL+Enter. Makes it easier for me to just press the keyboard key. Since the Enter key is mapped to "Lock Target" which IME is not used in simulation mode, I un-mapped "Lock Target" from the Enter key and re-mapped Control Indicator instead.

Just out of curiosity, where can I d/l Helios??? See if it works any better than my target profile