#3521485 - 02/18/12 03:15 PM
Rockstar, RDR, disappointment...
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I'm kinda shocked and disappointed that Rockstar Games never released one of the greatest, most unique games on PC... Red Dead Redemption... also shocked that with it's console success, a follow up was never released... Call of Duty gets a yearly release and really for the most part it's just new maps and different perks... but the same ol thing every year. In this day of age when every shooter, no matter if it's good or not seems to get a followup, the best, most unique game dies in the consoles... could you imagine what the PC modder could of done with RDR if it was released and supported for PC, by the mod community? (and OT; why can't they release a HD pack for download for the 360 version of Skyrim? BF3 did it...not as a download, but separate disk.) So anyway... Rockstar games does seem to be hiring for a new open world game... I can only hope it's as good and unique as RDR was. http://games.ign.com/articles/121/1218063p1.html?utm_campaign=twposts&utm_source=twitterJMO
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#3521546 - 02/18/12 05:26 PM
Re: Rockstar, RDR, disappointment...
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I agree with you. I never finished it, and my saved game progress got wiped out, so I'd need to start over, but I absolutely love that game. It really is a great change of pace. Now I've got RDR on the brain. Thanks alot.
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#3521570 - 02/18/12 05:55 PM
Re: Rockstar, RDR, disappointment...
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If I ever get time to start over, I will do that. yeah I know how it ends, but I'd still like to run through it.
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#3521580 - 02/18/12 06:11 PM
Re: Rockstar, RDR, disappointment...
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Alan Wake just got released on the PC, so who knows maybe RDR will too someday.
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#3521589 - 02/18/12 06:22 PM
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RDR was about one of the only games I've played on console and loved it and finished it. I wish they had ported that instead of LA Noire which I also enjoyed and finished on Xbox but wouldn't buy again for PC, RDR I would.
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#3521705 - 02/18/12 09:36 PM
Re: Rockstar, RDR, disappointment...
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Takes a long time to make a game as big and as polished as RDR. They may have had reservations about committing to a sequel until seeing how a Western would sell. Maybe they're working on it now? Hope so.
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#3521707 - 02/18/12 09:41 PM
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Great game, but the sad fact is that Rockstar did the money math and decided against it at the time. A few mitigating circumstances as well:
- GTAIV for the PC was a low third-place in terms of sales (even on pre-orders) compared to X/PS3. It got pirated to death, was released in poor condition and basically took too much time to port.
- Rockstar internally develops just on consoles but port the games themselves in-house using other teams, so when doing the sums/money of if RDR is worth it for the PC they have to account for not only the costs to do it, but also what else that team could be working on (for new console titles). When RDR came out it just happened that nearly all the RS teams were busy, so it was more profitable to get working on new IP.
- Ballpark they would make $4 million on RDR for PC, but it would cost $1+ million to initially dev/port it and then another $1 million to support/patch it (support on PC's is a never ending moving target compare to consoles). Plus then you have to factor in that a team for a year could be making another new title that could make $10 million.
If Rockstar were bigger, or had a different attitude to the PC market when a game was being written (or who could port it) then it would help, but I'd be surprised to now see RDR come across..
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#3522617 - 02/20/12 09:33 AM
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Read Dead Redemption was the only reason I got a 360.
Glad I did, as I would have missed one of the best games ever released otherwise.
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#3522715 - 02/20/12 02:21 PM
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It seems silly to buy a console for the sake of just one game, but I almost did that for RDR. I'm desperate to see some good Western action I played Call of Juarez 1 and 2 for a bit, but these are FPS and just OK-ish. I have no doubt that a Western game, if well done, would be a blockbuster regardless of the platform. Edit: No offence NimRud
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#3522726 - 02/20/12 02:42 PM
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GT5 isn't worth a console buy IMHO but forza might be and RDR for sure.
If you get a 360 you can have forza and RDR which IMHO is more than good enough to buy a console.
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#3522728 - 02/20/12 02:43 PM
Re: Rockstar, RDR, disappointment...
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BTW curious why Rockstar doesn't think they can make money porting RDR to PC, just saw an article which said the recent PC release of Alan Wake made back it's costs in the first 48 hours of PC sales and this was despite it being a <$30 title on PC: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-20-alan-wake-pc-makes-money-back-in-48-hours GTA4 sales sucked on PC because it was a bad port that ran like crap even for the fastest PCs of the time, but I'm sure if Rockstar did a good job with the port RDR would sell like crazy, I have a copy on the PS3 (original) and I bought a copy for my Xbox360 for the better graphics and I would probably pick it up on the PC too just to be able to enjoy those awesome sunrises on horseback in full AA/AF graphics glory.
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#3522729 - 02/20/12 02:45 PM
Re: Rockstar, RDR, disappointment...
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all they need to do for GT5 to make me happy... is unlock all the cars and tracks and damage models... so I can race any car, any track either by myself or online with friends... thats all they have to do. (proper Fanatec wheel support would be a big plus.) But your right... IMO, RDR is worth it.
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#3522772 - 02/20/12 04:19 PM
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I also bought a PS3 for GT5, but for me it turned out to be worth it, I spent hundreds of hours with GT5 and then discovered console gaming and now have that PS3 and bought an Xbox360 as well...
But you are right the Fanatec wheel support on GT5 is not as good as the G27 support which is what I used for most of my time in GT5.
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#3522829 - 02/20/12 06:20 PM
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And AI in mp races. The one think I LOVE about forza is the ability to set up a custom race with the exact cars you want and then race it with or without friends. Same here. I like to use that to set up something like a "track day" on the Nordschleife with a mix of various classes running the track for traffic.
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#3522901 - 02/20/12 07:59 PM
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And AI in mp races. The one think I LOVE about forza is the ability to set up a custom race with the exact cars you want and then race it with or without friends. Same here. I like to use that to set up something like a "track day" on the Nordschleife with a mix of various classes running the track for traffic. Really?!? Can you share how you set that up RK? Nordschleife trackdays were one of the things I was most looking forward to for Forza4 but I have not been able to figure out how to set that up, it seems like the trackday/slower traffic feature is only available in the "Rivals" mode but I haven't been able to figure out how to create a custom one, the only thing I've managed is to setup an online race on Nordschleife with a particular car class but make it AI only, is that what you mean?
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