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#4483349 - 07/19/19 11:09 AM Re: Scifi Books that should be movies. [Re: 453Raafspitty]  
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Originally Posted by 453Raafspitty
Long ago I heard the phrase "Hornblower in Space" to describe the HH series.



Nicholas Meyer used the same template for his approach to directing Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan.


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#4483350 - 07/19/19 11:12 AM Re: Scifi Books that should be movies. [Re: NH2112]  
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Originally Posted by NH2112

That is true, but apparently it’s a formula people like! The books are just BEGGING to be made into CGI-heavy movies, if done exactly as DW writes them the battles would be spectacular. Can you imagine seeing 2 divisions of superdreadnoughts and their screens launching double broadsides of missiles at each other as they close? Countermissiles vaporizing them by the score and still they come, decoys and EW pulling even more off track and the remainder streak onward into the point defense clusters. Bomb-pumped laser warheads going off, with some hitting impenetrable wedges while others blast through the sidewalks or straight down the open ends of wedges. This is where they’d have to deviate slightly from DW and use visible lasers instead of his invisible X-ray lasers. And then getting to energy range and really tearing into one another!



These should definitely be made by Netflix or some other online streaming service. Why? Space-based sci-fi is a VERY tough sell to the movieplex mainstream audiences. If it's not Star Wars or Star Trek, it usually flops at the box office.


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#4483370 - 07/19/19 03:17 PM Re: Scifi Books that should be movies. [Re: 453Raafspitty]  
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A lot of the most successful sci-fi films follow the "hero's journey" formula, that's been around for a couple thousand years, at least. Even the Martian follows the formula, somewhat. In fact, the formula is so ingrained in popular fiction, if a story does not follow it, most mainstream readers and viewers will think the story or film is "odd" or off, or something's wrong and they can't figure out why. This is why "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" is regarded poorly by general audiences, but "The Wrath of Khan" is fingered as the best trek film.

I've not read any of the HH novels, though, so have no input there.

#4484035 - 07/25/19 09:18 AM Re: Scifi Books that should be movies. [Re: 453Raafspitty]  
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#4486124 - 08/14/19 12:39 AM Re: Scifi Books that should be movies. [Re: 453Raafspitty]  
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These would be amazing on screen or on TV:

- the serie "eternal war" Joe Haldeman
- Planet of Adventure Jack Vance
- Wasp - Franck Eric Russell
- Vorkosigan saga Lois McMaster Bujold


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#4486140 - 08/14/19 08:03 AM Re: Scifi Books that should be movies. [Re: 453Raafspitty]  
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Engines of God by Jack McDevitt..Or National Treasure in Space I call it...

#4486232 - 08/14/19 09:20 PM Re: Scifi Books that should be movies. [Re: 453Raafspitty]  
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I think McDevitt’s “Coming Home” would be a good one because it has all the qualities that make a good story - characters you can relate to, adventure, intrigue, heroism, selfless sacrifice, and a happy ending.


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#4486318 - 08/15/19 08:40 PM Re: Scifi Books that should be movies. [Re: 453Raafspitty]  
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I was going to suggest Nightfall by Isaac Asimov, but it looks like it's had a few failed attempts already. So instead, I'll go with Caves of Steel. A murder mystery in a future Earth with an android. It should be doable.


And for yet another big space ship combat series there's Dauntless by Jack Campbell.
Here's the wiki article on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Fleet:_Dauntless

#4486374 - Yesterday at 10:38 AM Re: Scifi Books that should be movies. [Re: wormfood]  
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Originally Posted by wormfood
I was going to suggest Nightfall by Isaac Asimov, but it looks like it's had a few failed attempts already. So instead, I'll go with Caves of Steel. A murder mystery in a future Earth with an android. It should be doable.


And for yet another big space ship combat series there's Dauntless by Jack Campbell.
Here's the wiki article on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Fleet:_Dauntless

Which brings up the attempt to bring his Foundation series to film, not heard much about it.


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#4486379 - Yesterday at 10:44 AM Re: Scifi Books that should be movies. [Re: Alicatt]  
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Originally Posted by Alicatt


Which brings up the attempt to bring his Foundation series to film, not heard much about it.




The last I read is that a series based on the Foundation books is being worked on for the Apple streaming service. The film project that was being shopped around by Roland Emmerich is DOA.

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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer

The last I read is that a series based on the Foundation books is being worked on for the Apple streaming service. The film project that was being shopped around by Roland Emmerich is DOA.


Correct, Apple has greenlighted a 10 episode season of Foundation. It's being developed by Skydance Television who also made Altered Carbon, Jack Ryan (the Amazon series, not the movie) amongst other things.

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Originally Posted by wormfood
So instead, I'll go with Caves of Steel. A murder mystery in a future Earth with an android. It should be doable.


And for yet another big space ship combat series there's Dauntless by Jack Campbell.
Here's the wiki article on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Fleet:_Dauntless

Caves of Steel is part of the Foundation series. I nearly threw the book at the wall when reading Foundation and Earth and the big reveal of who the main protagonist is wink I think I must have cursed Asimov upside down and sideways for about 5 minutes before continuing to read the book.

Jack Campbell's The Lost Fleet series is a bit better than the HH series and better than Raymond Weil's "Lost Fleet" too though in both "lost fleet" series they use the same trope: hero in suspended animation comes back to save the day.

Other ones that could be good are:

Steven Sweeney's Battle for the Solar System trilogy
EE 'Doc' Smith's Family d'Alembert series, I found it to be a bit better in the Space Opera genre than his better known Lensman series.
Joshua Dalzelle's Omega Force series for a bit of light hearted mercenaries in space, or his Black Fleet trilogy starting with Warship
Again Joshua Dalzelle's Blueshift, a bit different from your usual run of the mill Sci Fi https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BKQM48L


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