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#4483715 - 07/22/19 01:27 PM Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well:  
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#4483716 - 07/22/19 01:33 PM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: FilthyApe1961]  
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I have not watched the movie but the essential feeling I got from reading multiple reviews by critics and fans is that the movie was mediocre but the music score was outstanding. The score was composed by Bear McCreary so I'm not surprised it was excellent.


The movie did indeed flop domestically but it did pretty well internationally.


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#4483717 - 07/22/19 02:18 PM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: FilthyApe1961]  
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I didn't think it was that bad.
I mean, c'mon, its a GODZILLA! movie.
The monster stuff was well done


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#4483719 - 07/22/19 02:25 PM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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Originally Posted by Bill_Grant
I didn't think it was that bad.
I mean, c'mon, its a GODZILLA! movie.
The monster stuff was well done



My feeling is that in the US it's a case of audience fatigue with the franchise. This is now the fourth Godzilla movie including that horrible abomination in 1998 with Matthew Broderick.


“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
#4483720 - 07/22/19 02:35 PM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: FilthyApe1961]  
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I fell asleep during most of it. Zzzzzzzzz

Lame movie

#4483723 - 07/22/19 02:42 PM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Bill_Grant
I didn't think it was that bad.
I mean, c'mon, its a GODZILLA! movie.
The monster stuff was well done

This is now the fourth Godzilla movie including that horrible abomination in 1998 with Matthew Broderick.


We do not talk of this monstrosity. Better left forgotten. Scared Godzilla... please.

#4483782 - 07/23/19 12:02 AM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Bill_Grant
I didn't think it was that bad.
I mean, c'mon, its a GODZILLA! movie.
The monster stuff was well done



My feeling is that in the US it's a case of audience fatigue with the franchise. This is now the fourth Godzilla movie including that horrible abomination in 1998 with Matthew Broderick.


Forgive me but what 'franchise fatigue'? There were 3 movies in 20 years-and actually 2 in the last 5. It ain't like MCU or Star Wars.

Anyway has anybody seen the vid?

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#4483787 - 07/23/19 01:18 AM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: FilthyApe1961]  
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i liked the movie. would see it again


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#4483794 - 07/23/19 03:13 AM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: Clydewinder]  
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Originally Posted by Clydewinder
i liked the movie. would see it again


As did I; I first saw Destroy All Monsters in the Cinema in 1969 so I have been a fanboi' for a LONG time. I also saw "-Vs Hedorah"; Vs-Gigan and Vs-Megalon as well as G-85, and The Beast From 20 thousand Fathoms remake in 1998--I've also seen all the other ones on TV during creature features or what not--Son of G; G's Revenge; Monster Zero; Ghidorah; G v the Sea Monster etc. I've seen GREAT movies and bad movies and in between movies. 2014 was pretty darned good even with the cutting away; THIS one...This one recreated some of the franchises great characters with it's mix of MoCap and CGI and I liked the hell out of it--it was like Rogue One--Fan Service to the Nth Degree. Good to see Ghidorah as we imagined him-- a planet destroying extinction event that just oozed menace.

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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
My feeling is that in the US it's a case of audience fatigue with the franchise. This is now the fourth Godzilla movie including that horrible abomination in 1998 with Matthew Broderick.


Milk it since hell freezes over. There are worse films around in their umpteenth Hollwood kitsch iteration, from the primitive "Fast and Furious" BS to "Transformers 5743".

"Godzilla film not realistic enough", ah winkngrin

#4483809 - 07/23/19 10:31 AM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: FilthyApe1961]  
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Originally Posted by FilthyApe1961



Forgive me but what 'franchise fatigue'?



That's easy in this case. What happened with the film from 2014 is that the casual, mainstream audiences were interested enough in checking it out since it had been 16 years since the previous big budget Godzilla movie. KOTM came out only 5 years after the 2014 film so as a result only the more hardcore dedicated fans of the monster genre bothered to go see it. In other words, KOTM came out too soon.


You definitely seem to be a hardcore fan based on what you've posted so far so you are thus in the minority when compared to the overall mainstream, casual audience. My ultimate point is that if you want a big budget movie to be successful at the box office, it HAS to appeal to audiences beyond the hardcore niche.

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#4483843 - 07/23/19 05:10 PM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: FilthyApe1961]  
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I didn't see it because it was a Japanese monster movie made by Americans.

We can do so many things well, but this ain't one of them.


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#4483879 - 07/23/19 10:21 PM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by FilthyApe1961



Forgive me but what 'franchise fatigue'?



That's easy in this case. What happened with the film from 2014 is that the casual, mainstream audiences were interested enough in checking it out since it had been 16 years since the previous big budget Godzilla movie. KOTM came out only 5 years after the 2014 film so as a result only the more hardcore dedicated fans of the monster genre bothered to go see it. In other words, KOTM came out too soon.


You definitely seem to be a hardcore fan based on what you've posted so far so you are thus in the minority when compared to the overall mainstream, casual audience. My ultimate point is that if you want a big budget movie to be successful at the box office, it HAS to appeal to audiences beyond the hardcore niche.


First I need to apologize if I came across as 'terse' ro rude.

But You ARE Right I am a fan of long standing. AND you're also right that the mainstream casual audience has no attraction to the film, much to my dismay; it's like Pacific Rim: Del Toro created the perfect love letter to the 'Tokusatsu' Genre he loved as a kid in D.F. and it was a great movie too. But the sadly it seems the US doesn't have a lot of Kaiju/Tokusatsu fans as opposed to Asia, so two rather well done films that were 'fan service' to the max didn't attract 'normals'. I did my best: my daughter & I saw the film 4 times: twice we dragged one of my daughter's friends to see it--at first they were kind of 'uninterested' but once the SHTF they loved it. The one person I could NOT convince to go was my wife--she simply didn't care...not even for "Fathers Day";
That being said,I should reserve my anger for the supposed 'fans' who whined and pouted about how the CGI generated film 'cut away' from the fights and they were going to withhold their $$ because it wasn't like the TOHO flicks were men in costumes bashed carboard and plaster cities right on camera--like those whiners couldn't understand the diff between well made CGI combined with Motion Capture rendered in a computer was HUGELY more expensive than suitmation.

#4483923 - 07/24/19 10:27 AM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: FilthyApe1961]  
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That's an excellent post FilthyApe!


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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
That's an excellent post FilthyApe!


Thanks; The whinyness of the fan base sometimes gets to me.

#4485235 - 08/06/19 02:15 AM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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Originally Posted by Bill_Grant
I didn't think it was that bad.
I mean, c'mon, its a GODZILLA! movie.
The monster stuff was well done


In general, I liked it. It was exciting to see Monster Zero (King Ghidorah) fully realized.


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#4485252 - 08/06/19 10:34 AM Re: Well Godzilla KOTM didn't do so well: [Re: FilthyApe1961]  
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I'll watch it eventually when it's on Netflix. smile


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We liked it. Would have been nice if they left the whole failed relationship issues out of it, that theme was just meh and has been done to death.

A funny comment i read somewhere was someone forced to go see Rocketman with his wife and the highlight of that movie was that in the quiet parts they could hear the epic roars of Godzilla in the cinema next door.


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Originally Posted by Ajay


A funny comment i read somewhere was someone forced to go see Rocketman with his wife and the highlight of that movie was that in the quiet parts they could hear the epic roars of Godzilla in the cinema next door.





Ha! That's truly epic. I can't remember which movie I was watching at the time but I distinctly remember hearing the roars from the T-Rex from "Jurassic Park" which was playing in the theater screen right next to mine.


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That was actually quite good.


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