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#4475581 - 05/27/19 05:54 AM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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Forgive me, I have not followed you thread for a bit. How did you work out the wheel brakes? You were having problems with axle movement taking up the slack with your cable operated bands.


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#4475638 - 05/27/19 03:53 PM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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I solved the problem of the band brakes by taking them off, throwing them in the trash, and getting some drum brakes. smile

Since two of the three possibilities for why they locked up on takeoff and caused me to invert were mechanical (and the third, that I was applying them myself due to the handle being on the stick solved by moving it to the side of the cockpit), I just went another way.

I flew for most of a year without them at all, which was fine. 99.9% of the time I don't need them. One day, though, I had to hold up for an incoming aircraft and wound up doing a big circle at the end of the taxiway, which caused me to rethink their necessity.

Indeed, right now they've not adjusted and are a fashion accessory; I require a helper for that and it just hasn't been pressing enough for me to enlist aid.


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#4475642 - 05/27/19 04:11 PM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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If you need a helper, I can fly up on short notice.


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#4475887 - 05/29/19 01:22 AM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: oldgrognard]  
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I appreciate that...now that Summer is here, when the plane is back together and flying I'll invite you up again!

One of the other problems I wanted to deal with was moving gas from cans to the aircraft in a way that was measurable, predictable, controllable.

Here is the Fuel Dispenser 2000:

[Linked Image]

Easy as punch! Put gas in, put the cap with the hose connector on, place it on a step ladder or something, remove the breather hole on top, put the hose (not shown) into the aircraft tank, turn the lever and watch it go.

The sight gauge is to let me know how much I've dispensed.


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#4475890 - 05/29/19 01:32 AM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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Yep indeed ,,,, necessity is the mother of invention..


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#4476903 - 06/06/19 02:59 PM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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My new fuel monitoring and fill system:

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#4477023 - 06/07/19 08:26 AM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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Looks almost period correct. Including the chance to bathe yourself in fuel after a crash :p

#4477190 - 06/08/19 02:22 AM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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Naw, not much.

The biggest threat is inverting (as I well know), and when that happens the gas goes out of the vented cap and onto the upper wing.

Open cockpits make for easy egress, though.

Seriously, it's actually designed for safety. The access points for the line are on the back side of the tank, and it's heavy fuel line for most of the way fairly loosely tied down to the airframe. The sight gauge is velcroed in and thick tybex.

If the wreck is serious enough to have the lines break, any fuel leaks will be just a cherry on the top.


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#4479490 - 06/22/19 04:39 PM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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Very variable wind made for an interesting landing.

I had been flying around for a little over an hour with some standard bumpiness - it is Summertime here in the South, after all, and I was flying mid-day - and figured I do a straight in approach since I rarely do them and it's good practice. The windsock was dancing all around, but showing around 5-7 miles per hour wind.



(A little less than three minutes)

Head GoPro was at narrow field of view for some other stuff I was doing while putting in the fuel tank, and I forgot to change it back.

Winds are back up to Nope levels, so it's a waiting game again.


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#4479513 - 06/22/19 06:01 PM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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I like the narrow field of view, more of a "you are there" feeling for me. If there is an intermediate fov setting that could be ideal.

Nice landing too!


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#4481050 - 07/02/19 07:33 PM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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My fuel sight gauge is giving me errors on the top half of the tank (which is a great improvement over the inverse), with the fuel just sticking at around 8 gallons until it goes to 6....at which point it hops down and reads accurately.

I did all manner of awesome trouble shooting, thinking that maybe there was some sort of pressurization of the tank going on, putting suction on the fuel in the return line to the tank, but that wasn't going anywhere in a hurry. The tank is neutral pressure, vented in two different ways (the cap is vented and there is a vent line on the filler neck), so that's not logical.

Then when I was flying this weekend I noticed there is a trap in the return line that holds fuel. Dammit. Also, hurray!

The trap is caused by the tube in the sighting portion just a bend over at the top, which makes a hump. I should be able to simply put in a 90 degree join there to bring it straight over and down, which hopefully will solve the issue.


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#4482709 - 07/13/19 08:28 PM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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New, much smaller oil cooler arrived this week, but it may be a bit before I can put it on.

Ron and Don Wade, the guys who restored the give-away Cub for EAA Oshkosh, have their "Rat Cub" on the cover of SportAviation, a shelf of awards for aircraft, etc., etc., got a hold of me and asked me to come out and help them with a few projects for Oshkosh this year, as they have a ton to do on a skeleton display (airplane less covering) and a few other projects. Well, they're great guys and let me dip into their scrap fabric bin before, so I naturally said I'd be more than happy to lend a hand.

They've seen Babette, so I didn't feel like I had to stress too much that my skill level may be a bit below their level of craftsmanship.

Apparently it was gooder enough, as after a day of fabricating minor parts and asking questions before tearing stuff up on a custom design aircraft they offered me a full time job with them. On the construction side - no way they'd let me set foot in the covering rooms. smile

Ron said they need a generalist that can problem solve and keep things simple, as they have an avionics guy, an engine guy, etc., so I fit the bill.

Weird.


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#4482713 - 07/13/19 08:37 PM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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Full time job. Payed ?


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#4482714 - 07/13/19 08:40 PM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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With money and everything.


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#4482721 - 07/13/19 09:04 PM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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Oh my. That is a wonderful offer. Getting paid to do something you love.

And your thoughts are ... ?


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#4482736 - 07/14/19 12:45 AM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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Darn Dart, that is just so awesome.

No doubt earned, and well deserved too.

Just so you don't have to relocate N of the Mason Dixon or anything... nope


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#4482741 - 07/14/19 02:17 AM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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It's just up the road from me.

The vibe in the shop is very much "let's get it done without any drama," which is very cool. Everyone helps everyone out, and when it's a one man job, leave that one man alone.

A workplace full of adults. Very nice.

The bad of it is that I wasn't intending to go back to work until next year, and it's A) a day job, and B) has responsibility and expectations.*

Fortunately, the hours are a bit flexible - some days one will work late, some days one can cut out early. The wife has some doctor's appointments I have to carry her to, so we talked about that beforehand. Half days are okay, so long as they get a heads-up. Oh, and not a quibble about me missing a couple days next week for my colonoscopy.

Then again, I didn't bark at coming in today (Saturday) to do some stuff. Since everything is task oriented - for example today I had to help put the tail feathers and rig them on one plane, and take apart the tail feathers of another, flip a piece so the grease fitting faced the right way (hurray, not one of the things I goofed up), and put them back on, there are natural stopping points that can dictate work hours.

I did screw up drilling the bolt holes for the rear of the horizontal stab on the skeleton plane - I let my helper distract me and they're not even close to lined up with each other - so it's going to be a PITA fix after Oshkosh. It's completely airworthy, just ugly, and in this shop pretty matters. They were pretty cool about it, to be honest....I figured they'd say "hey, thanks for all the help you've given us, but I think we're good from here on out." smile

The funny thing is that the two forward bolts on the horizontal stab are perfect, and they're the ones that are difficult to drill...but I did those on my own.

OTOH, the rear seat/cargo area/flooring system we're doing is about 50% my ideas - which mostly consisted of trying to eliminate fasteners and simplifying things as much as I could. And all the controls and floorboard was them just turning it over to me to do.

Now for the hilarious bit of the job, which is learning the real names for tools and techniques. Turns out the "dimple tool" is really a countersink drill, and "dimple washers" are Tinnerman washers.

* I absolutely LOVED being the nighttime security guard, as it was a nighttime job (freeing up my days) and completely without any serious responsibility or expectation beyond being there and not sleeping.

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#4482766 - 07/14/19 11:50 AM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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Lucky dog getting a gig doing something you enjoy! Grats, Dart.

#4482836 - 07/15/19 01:06 AM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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I kind of fell into some of the shakers and movers of aviation by accident, mostly just by walking up and talking to them, making them laugh, and shaking hands.

I'm at the very bottom of General Aviation and homebuilt aircraft, which is very entertaining. The aerobatic guys I know do these fantastic airshows flipping planes end over end, and I am happy to not bounce the plane five feet high on landing. It's interesting that these folks are mostly commercial airline pilots with tens of thousands of hours, fly aerobatics as a summer job, and aren't the least bit arrogant (why would they be?) and are happy with anyone who is enthusiastic about flying.

Ron and Don came by the EAA meeting one time, and offered to give us a tour of their shop (which we took advantage of). While they're tube-and-fabric kinds of guys, they're on a whole different level than I am - but so few people are doing fabric covered aircraft nowadays it got their attention.

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Of course I might go in tomorrow and they tell me "thanks for the help, we have it from here." I'm almost expecting to get fired for not having the skill levels required.

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#4482841 - 07/15/19 01:30 AM Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11. [Re: Dart]  
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You underrate yourself.


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