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#4477557 - 06/11/19 07:31 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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#4477669 - 06/11/19 10:45 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Anxious to see what MicroProse will offer.

Life's too short and fragile to get pessimistic about a recreational outlet.

The Days of Silent Service, Gunship, Red Storm Rising, etc were great. I see no reason to not be hopeful.


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#4477713 - 06/12/19 08:44 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Anxious to see what MicroProse will offer.

Life's too short and fragile to get pessimistic about a recreational outlet.

The Days of Silent Service, Gunship, Red Storm Rising, etc were great. I see no reason to not be hopeful.


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#4477720 - 06/12/19 10:08 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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#4477721 - 06/12/19 10:24 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Yea they are doing together with IEN Warbirds 2020 on Unreal engine 4

#4477726 - 06/12/19 12:08 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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I'm full of life and optimism these days, but there's absolutely nothing here that makes me think the original Microprose is being resurrected and that any of the classics are coming back in any way whatsoever. Nothing. Them days are long gone and we were fortunate enough to live them. smile

#4477727 - 06/12/19 12:11 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG
I'm full of life and optimism these days, but there's absolutely nothing here that makes me think the original Microprose is being resurrected and that any of the classics are coming back in any way whatsoever. Nothing. Them days are long gone and we were fortunate enough to live them. smile



+1


The ENTIRE game publishing market has changed dramatically. It would simply be naive to think that the 1990's era Microprose would return.


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#4477728 - 06/12/19 12:21 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Today "Microprose" is just a name owned by a publisher, not a simulation dev studio like back in the day (that I'm aware of). The owner wants to make money on that name and who can blame them.

BTW, Microprose also published games in the 90's that they didn't develop themselves, including one of my all-time favorites: Subwar 2050 (developed by Particle Systems).

EDIT: Would this not also include Falcon 4.0, or was that just the use of the more popular "Microprose" name after a Spectrum HoloByte buyout?

#4477729 - 06/12/19 12:46 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG



EDIT: Would this not also include Falcon 4.0, or was that just the use of the more popular "Microprose" name after a Spectrum HoloByte buyout?


If I'm not mistaken, HASBRO bought Microprose sometime during development of Falcon 4 or soon after it was released.


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#4477731 - 06/12/19 12:56 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by MarkG



EDIT: Would this not also include Falcon 4.0, or was that just the use of the more popular "Microprose" name after a Spectrum HoloByte buyout?


If I'm not mistaken, HASBRO bought Microprose sometime during development of Falcon 4 or soon after it was released.


Ah, you're right, I forgot about HASBRO.

BTW, wasn't the Atari name later somehow involved with the Falcon brand? I remember a poster named Mower constantly dissing "fake Atari" on Frugal's World but as time goes on, I'm forgetting the Falcon history.

I remember when another sim dev Graphsim published Allied Force (developed by Lead Pursuit).

#4477733 - 06/12/19 01:06 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Does anyone here remember the tv commercial for Falcon 4? To date, Falcon 4 is the ONLY PC flight sim that I've ever seen an actual tv commercial spot for.


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#4477741 - 06/12/19 03:18 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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There was a tv ad for Microsoft Flight Sim 2004. Looks so dated now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY4xupXfB_Y

#4477747 - 06/12/19 04:10 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Well, this answered my previous questions...

Falcon 4 History Chart

#4477748 - 06/12/19 04:21 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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According to Wikipedia...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroProse

"Since 2018, the MicroProse brand has been owned by David Lagettie, working with Bill Stealey's own company iEntertainment Network on the Warbirds series of combat flight simulators.[46]"

Nothing to do with classic Microprose at all, just a cool name.

EDIT: Not to pick on "Wild Bill" and all the good stuff that came out of the company he co-founded, but then his iMagic gave us iF-22 with no night time modeled (late-dusk to early-dawn is my favorite time to fly if mainly for the low-visibility pucker factor...add inclement weather, even better).

2nd EDIT: Did Bill Stealey fly the F-15 for the National Guard? I seem to remember this but can't find any info on it.

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#4477784 - 06/12/19 07:37 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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But Bill Stealey is one of the founders of Microprose.

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Hard to catch the lightning in a bottle that was Microprose once let alone twice.
Hopefully they can pull it off. cool


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#4477800 - 06/12/19 08:54 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG
I'm full of life and optimism these days, but there's absolutely nothing here that makes me think the original Microprose is being resurrected and that any of the classics are coming back in any way whatsoever. Nothing. Them days are long gone and we were fortunate enough to live them. smile


Well...your reply is curious to me.

There certainly is something that should be making you think something or other is happening in the vein of this company doing something in the arena of simulation that covers the era that their past iteration covered.

The 'classics' from MicroProse returning in 'any way whatsoever' is to me, both unrealistic and unwanted. Those 'classics' had limited scope in many way due to restrictions of the time. I don't want Silent Service with the proverbial 'better graphics'...I want a better sim than Silent Service. And I see no reason MicroProse might not develop it, unless I am assuming that since they aren't the same company I knew in the '80s, they must be poised to fail.

I'm sorry but your reply has very little optimism in my opinion. It is rather very pessimistic.


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#4477806 - 06/12/19 09:08 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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We will see soon enough, they said that Warbirds 2020 is coming in september - october this year.

#4477809 - 06/12/19 09:27 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: 462cid]  
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Guys, Microprose ceased to be a sim dev studio a couple of decades ago, only the trademarked name lives on for publishing rights. I'm not being pessimistic, I just don't see any lines here to even try and read between.

I don't even know what Warbirds is (or was) but if Bill Stealey's iEntertainment Network's Warbirds is your thing, it looks like you might be getting a new version with a Microprose sticker on it. That's all I'm seeing here and that's cool, if that's your thing.

EDIT: Same thing happened with the "Jane's" brand.

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Common sense...and basic math...tells even the casual observer that "this" MicroProse is not "that" MicroProse.


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