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#4476963 - 06/06/19 08:19 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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#4476966 - 06/06/19 08:37 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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bloody good read Bill "least we Forget" the men who went ashore,,Watching some good shows on TCM Dunkirk now and The Battle of Britain next and "The longest Day " after


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#4476967 - 06/06/19 08:43 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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That is better than a solid read. It captures the utter overwhelming blanket that descends on you in combat. Your span of command and control shrinks to those you can touch and yell to. Your field of vision narrows and sometimes you are seeing no more than looking through a cardboard tube. Utter chaos.



Another good read on the cost and conditions.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...ford_boys_ultimate_sacrifice_140507.html


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#4476977 - 06/06/19 09:33 PM Re: D-Day [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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Originally Posted by Bill_Grant


That was a very humbling thing to read. Not sure what else to say.


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#4476984 - 06/06/19 10:14 PM Re: D-Day [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
That is better than a solid read. It captures the utter overwhelming blanket that descends on you in combat. Your span of command and control shrinks to those you can touch and yell to. Your field of vision narrows and sometimes you are seeing no more than looking through a cardboard tube. Utter chaos.



Another good read on the cost and conditions.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...ford_boys_ultimate_sacrifice_140507.html



"The Bedford Boys" is a harrowing read. Very sad.


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#4476985 - 06/06/19 10:25 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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S! to all who took part, to the men who returned and especially those that didn't.

#4476991 - 06/06/19 11:11 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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"Solid read by an author that was there, written in 1960"

Wow...I read that on the edge of my seat. I've read few descriptions of the landings that were as terrifying as that. Some war stories are written in ways that almost make you wish you could have been there. I would not like to have been wading ashore on Omaha Beach, on the morning of June 6th, 1944.


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#4477012 - 06/07/19 02:30 AM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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#4477016 - 06/07/19 04:08 AM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbHPcg9zcDw

This is a documentary on the very same unit the article talked about, the 116th REG of the 29th Division at Normandy. Some of the men mentioned in the story were interviewed for it.


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#4477037 - 06/07/19 11:44 AM Re: D-Day [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Also on June 6, 1944 while 156,000 British, American and Canadian troops went ashore on the beaches of Normandy to defeat Hitler another 71,000 Americans embarked on troopships at Pearl Harbor headed for Saipan where they would land about 2 weeks later.

The people of todays world cannot even conceive of such near total mobilization for global warfare.


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#4477042 - 06/07/19 01:01 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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Saw a BBC clip yesterday of a millennial reporter interviewing a an old D-Day vet. The old guy had a strong London accent. I was struck by how much his words sounded like an interview I heard with George H Bush years ago.. The millennial reporter kept calling this old chap a "hero" . He stopped her and said something like. " I was not a hero. I was just a young chap doing my job and my duty. the heroes gave their lives " George H said something like " I'm not a hero......I was just dumb enough to get shot down "

What GREAT men. They KNEW what service and duty meant.


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#4477054 - 06/07/19 02:19 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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Don't forget the other landing sites.
Here's a great speech, I've only just discovered, from Reagan at Pointe du Hoc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTLVIp1AjAg

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Originally Posted by wormfood
Don't forget the other landing sites.
Here's a great speech, I've only just discovered, from Reagan at Pointe du Hoc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTLVIp1AjAg




I vividly remember that speech. It was and is awesome.


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#4477066 - 06/07/19 03:01 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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That was a great speech.

I’d have taken a bullet for Reagan.


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#4477069 - 06/07/19 03:04 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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Reagan's poise and charisma will not be replicated in my lifetime.


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#4477080 - 06/07/19 03:40 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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Good post wormfood I listened to it twice..Always had great respect for President Reagan a good man..I still hear him saying
Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!


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#4477330 - 06/09/19 08:46 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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My nephew was one of the C130 pilots dropping paratroopers for the D-Day commemoration, waiting for his turn to take off along with USAF C130s

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#4477332 - 06/09/19 08:53 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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That’s a great experience. One he will always treasure ; more in retrospect when he looks back later in life.


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#4477336 - 06/09/19 09:05 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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That I'm sure he will, this area owes a lot to the Scots and Welsh Guards who were the main troops that liberated the towns here, and one of the streets is called 12th September straat as that was the day in 1944 that the town was liberated from the occupying German forces.


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#4477357 - 06/09/19 11:20 PM Re: D-Day [Re: Alicatt]  
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Originally Posted by Alicatt
That I'm sure he will, this area owes a lot to the Scots and Welsh Guards who were the main troops that liberated the towns here, and one of the streets is called 12th September straat as that was the day in 1944 that the town was liberated from the occupying German forces.


The area I grew up in was a post war development for WW2 vets and had the streets named after battles/areas they fought in. Normandy was the main street and Falaise the second major street. My street was Arnhem tho it took 40 years to have the Dutch spelling not the German spelling on the signs.


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There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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