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#4476863 - 06/06/19 09:37 AM D-Day  
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Today 75 years ago men landed at Normandy..I will pause to remember and salute the brave men who served there they were truly "The Greatest Generation" and deserve or gratitude for preserving the freedom we have today


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#4476864 - 06/06/19 09:41 AM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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Originally Posted by rwatson
Today 75 years ago men landed at Normandy..I will pause to remember and salute the brave men who served there they were truly "The Greatest Generation"

Yes a thank you for them all, overseas and at home.


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4476865 - 06/06/19 10:04 AM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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#4476867 - 06/06/19 10:17 AM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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Salute and respect!!

Today is a good day to break out my Blu-ray Disc for “The Longest Day”.


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#4476868 - 06/06/19 10:23 AM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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for sure PM and "Saving PVT Ryan" I get chills at the landing at Omaha,and wonder if I could have done it


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#4476874 - 06/06/19 12:40 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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Written by General Eisenhower, to be released if the D-Day invasion failed. A real leader.

"Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that Bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone."

#4476876 - 06/06/19 12:46 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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Also on June 6, 1944 while 156,000 British, American and Canadian troops went ashore on the beaches of Normandy to defeat Hitler another 71,000 Americans embarked on troopships at Pearl Harbor headed for Saipan where they would land about 2 weeks later.

The people of todays world cannot even conceive of such near total mobilization for global warfare.

#4476877 - 06/06/19 12:50 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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Never Forget. Thank you Veterans.

Days like today I feel silly playing WW2 video games.
How far removed we are, in our comfort and freedom, all because of brave great men.

#4476886 - 06/06/19 02:13 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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F4 good solid quote and for sure was the measure of the man


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#4476893 - 06/06/19 02:32 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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The Great Crusade.

My respects to the Allied forces that accomplished the noble endeavor.


Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

Someday your life will flash in front of your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
#4476911 - 06/06/19 03:37 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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#4476914 - 06/06/19 03:49 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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I learned about Juan Pujol García today:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pujol_Garc%C3%ADa

One of the many innumerous, crafty badasses that helped us bring down the wicked Nazi rule.

#4476927 - 06/06/19 05:07 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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"The people of todays world cannot even conceive of such near total mobilization for global warfare."

No, they don't! Years ago a girl at my job was talking about the Olympics and mentioned something about the games during a year that the Second World War was being fought. I explained to her that there were no Olympic Games during World War Two. "Why not?" she said.
I tried to patiently explain that you don't go playing games at a time when the entire planet in embroiled in a world war. You don't play soccer against against a country when you are trying to wipe each other out. I wound up going into how we didn't even build civilian cars during those years and that's why you don't see any 1944 Chevies and Fords being restored. There weren't any built!
The idea was completely alien to her. I really got the impression that she was not convinced and that it couldn't have been as bad as all that!
People today are used to these small wars that we fight. They don't affect your life unless you have someone "over there." They can not grasp the concept of the entire country being mobilized for war and how it affects and intrudes on almost every facet of your life. You couln't even use your car every day because of fuel rationing. It was needed for the war effort. Women couldn't buy stockings because the silk was needed for parachutes. Schools collected pots and pans and donated the metal to the factories making planes, ships, tanks, and everything else needed for such a huge undertaking as a global war.
No, people today can not conceive of it.

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#4476928 - 06/06/19 05:11 PM Re: D-Day [Re: Pooch]  
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Originally Posted by Pooch

No, people today can not conceive of it.



And let's hope we don't have another war on such a scale as WW 2 where the people today will get a very rude awakening.


Actually, another war on the same scale as WW 2 wouldn't last nearly as long since it would undoubtedly go full nuclear.


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#4476930 - 06/06/19 05:15 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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Pooch for those serving there is no small wars And I understand that people don't understand the concept of total war.Unless they have someone serving it doesn't hit home ,,when I served I was just away to a place they couldn't find on a map


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#4476931 - 06/06/19 05:16 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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"Actually, another war on the same scale as WW 2 wouldn't last nearly as long since it would undoubtedly go full nuclear."
I think it would go nuclear very quickly. Both sides would be expecting the other to push the button so they'd want to beat them to it. There'd be no time for school metal drives during the next one. The missiles would be flying the very first day.


"From our orbital vantage point, we observe an earth without borders, full of peace, beauty and magnificence, and we pray that humanity as a whole can imagine a borderless world as we see it, and strive to live as one in peace."
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#4476933 - 06/06/19 05:20 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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R, I'm sure you know what I meant by "small wars." It was in no way an attempt to deminish the importance or impact of ANY war on someone who was there. I'm speaking comparitively. Compared to World War 2, Viet Nam was a small war. But 58,000 American were killed.

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#4476934 - 06/06/19 05:20 PM Re: D-Day [Re: Pooch]  
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#4476937 - 06/06/19 05:26 PM Re: D-Day [Re: rwatson]  
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#4476958 - 06/06/19 07:57 PM Re: D-Day [Re: Pooch]  
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Originally Posted by Pooch
"The people of todays world cannot even conceive of such near total mobilization for global warfare."

No, they don't! Years ago a girl at my job was talking about the Olympics and mentioned something about the games during a year that the Second World War was being fought. I explained to her that there were no Olympic Games during World War Two. "Why not?" she said.
I tried to patiently explain that you don't go playing games at a time when the entire planet in embroiled in a world war. You don't play soccer against against a country when you are trying to wipe each other out. I wound up going into how we didn't even build civilian cars during those years and that's why you don't see any 1944 Chevies and Fords being restored. There weren't any built!
The idea was completely alien to her. I really got the impression that she was not convinced and that it couldn't have been as bad as all that!
People today are used to these small wars that we fight. They don't affect your life unless you have someone "over there." They can not grasp the concept of the entire country being mobilized for war and how it affects and intrudes on almost every facet of your life. You couln't even use your car every day because of fuel rationing. It was needed for the war effort. Women couldn't buy stockings because the silk was needed for parachutes. Schools collected pots and pans and donated the metal to the factories making planes, ships, tanks, and everything else needed for such a huge undertaking as a global war.
No, people today can not conceive of it.


If your daughter doesn’t get it about sports during the Second World War, you can use the movie “A League of Their Own”. Ask her why they even formed professional women’s baseball teams. The men were off in service.

Talk to her about Pete Gray , the one armed player, who played during the war until .... “Gray's major league career ended that same year when many of baseball's stars returned from the battlefront and assumed their previous positions on the diamond. ”


Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

Someday your life will flash in front of your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
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