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#4474020 - 05/14/19 10:31 AM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: vonBaur]  
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I will make an educated guess and say that many of the current Uber/Lyft drivers are people who would have originally been working in retail had that sector not been in a major contraction which has been going on several years now. That might explain the higher than expected number of people working for Lyft and Uber.


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#4474046 - 05/14/19 02:00 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: VF9_Longbow]  
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Originally Posted by VF9_Longbow
that's nonsense, have you looked at the number of safely completed uber and lyft trips compared to the number of problems experienced? it's like being worried about being hit by lightning on a clear day

Right. Just like people look at the hundreds or thousands of Boeing 737 Max8 flights that didn't end in crashes, or even experience any problems at all. Or the millions of rounds of ammunition fired every year in the USA by responsible people that hit nothing other than the inanimate targets at which they were aimed. The fact is that attention will always be focused on the rare events that are the exception because we humans seem to think that we're capable of eliminating all of them.

And that's not an indictment of government, political parties, or the media, so this should not raise PWEC concerns. It's something that each of us has within us. How many times has each of you fixed some problem only to have some overlooked detail come back to bite you in your (paratroop reference ahead) fourth point of contact?


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#4474063 - 05/14/19 03:47 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: vonBaur]  
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Originally Posted by vonBaur
Originally Posted by VF9_Longbow
that's nonsense, have you looked at the number of safely completed uber and lyft trips compared to the number of problems experienced? it's like being worried about being hit by lightning on a clear day

Right. Just like people look at the hundreds or thousands of Boeing 737 Max8 flights that didn't end in crashes, or even experience any problems at all. Or the millions of rounds of ammunition fired every year in the USA by responsible people that hit nothing other than the inanimate targets at which they were aimed. The fact is that attention will always be focused on the rare events that are the exception because we humans seem to think that we're capable of eliminating all of them.

And that's not an indictment of government, political parties, or the media, so this should not raise PWEC concerns. It's something that each of us has within us. How many times has each of you fixed some problem only to have some overlooked detail come back to bite you in your (paratroop reference ahead) fourth point of contact?



"A few bad apple spoils the bunch"

In the age of social media bad experiences make their way around quickly to millions of people and can and often does affect companies and how people (including how investors) react. Taxi services of coarse don't have a perfect record but perhaps if i had more confidence in Ubers ability to properly screen their drivers I'd be more likely to use them.


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#4474086 - 05/14/19 06:27 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: vonBaur]  
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Social media only amplifies the issue, Haggart. It's long been a customer relations mantra that one unhappy customer will turn away 100 of his friends, but of 100 satisfied customers only one person will be referred.


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#4474131 - 05/14/19 10:54 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: vonBaur]  
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Originally Posted by vonBaur
Social media only amplifies the issue, Haggart. It's long been a customer relations mantra that one unhappy customer will turn away 100 of his friends, but of 100 satisfied customers only one person will be referred.


Sometimes. A lot of times, the kind of person who is inclined to be an unhappy customer does not have all that many friends. You know the type... the ones who treat wait staff at restaurants like crap, etc. Their associates know to discount their grumbling.

#4474182 - 05/15/19 12:18 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: vonBaur]  
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Should the public be confident in Uber's ability to properly screen its new drivers ? NO

example Nov 2017

The man accused of killing eight people with a Home Depot truck in Manhattan on Tuesday in what authorities are calling an act of terrorism worked as an Uber and Lyft driver, the companies said.

most recent example May 2019

An Accused Somali War Criminal Is Working as an Uber and Lyft Driver (he came to the U.S. to escape the charges of atrocities he committed in Somalia including torture)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/an-ac...-driver-report?source=cheats&via=rss

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/business/uber-driver-accused-war-criminal-invs/index.html





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#4474185 - 05/15/19 12:46 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: vonBaur]  
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There have been numerous traditional taxi drivers who were serial killers as well


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#4474186 - 05/15/19 12:58 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: vonBaur]  
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Why are people suddenly worried about how well Uber/Lyft vets its potential drivers when that same concern didn't exist for the traditional taxi services?


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#4474187 - 05/15/19 12:59 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
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Why are people suddenly worried about how well Uber/Lyft vets its potential drivers when that same concern didn't exist for the traditional taxi services?



Because some people love to hate on "evil corporations".


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#4474191 - 05/15/19 01:20 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: vonBaur]  
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Because so often corporations put the almighty $ ahead of the public good/safety ...... Facebook and Craigslist come to mind as well


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#4474203 - 05/15/19 02:49 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: vonBaur]  
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I've had a few cab rides in New York city that (IMHO) were borderline attempted murder. Total maniacs at the wheel. biggrin


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#4474225 - 05/15/19 06:59 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: vonBaur]  
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lol ! ..... try a Paris taxi for comparison


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#4474241 - 05/15/19 10:38 PM Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th [Re: vonBaur]  
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I had a Palestinian Zealot cab driver at the Airport in New Orleans early one evening. He was ranting so bad, Israel/America... "Death to everybody" adda adda he was almost foaming at the mouth. blahblahblah

I told him I thought the Palestinians were getting a raw deal ( winkngrin ), and said I needed to stop somewhere for toiletries and cigarettes. I gave him $20 to "hold the cab" and disappeared. Only had about 15 hours in NOLA ( woot ) or I would have called the cops, Homeland Stupidity, and maybe even the Clinton Foundation on the guy.

Majority of my interactions have been good experiences with Uber recently and cabs in general in the past.


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