#4473343 - 05/08/19 12:05 AM
Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th
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Yeah, I don't care, either.
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#4473354 - 05/08/19 03:55 AM
Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th
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If i ever need a cab it won't either one of those
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#4473375 - 05/08/19 11:57 AM
Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th
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They have joined the ranks of encyclopedia salesmen, film critics and retail store workers.
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#4473380 - 05/08/19 12:41 PM
Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th
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PanzerMeyer
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WOW do they still have encyclopedia salesmen ?? In the US they are extinct but I don't know about other countries.
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#4473390 - 05/08/19 02:06 PM
Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th
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OOPS! Got the date wrong. It's today, the 8th.
In the 90's I worked for a courier service in southern California. Same arrangement: private contractor, paid by the delivery not by the hour, no health coverage or paid time off, responsible for my own vehicle expenses. I can relate to their concerns, but it's still the drivers' choice to stay or go. Everybody likes the good sides of their jobs, but all jobs have downsides and you accept those when you say, "yes" as well. If the company changes the rules afterward, that's one thing. But to accept the terms and then get mad when those downsides stop being an abstract is just more whiney garbage.
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#4473394 - 05/08/19 02:22 PM
Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th
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The irony is that working as an independent contractor is both appropriate for Uber/Lyft drivers and it benefits them with the new tax law.
Drivers are independent contractors because they determine their own hours and other than contractual agreements, Uber/Lyft never directly tells them what to do. The drivers who want to become employees and get W2s should be careful what they wish for, especially if driving is a supplemental form of income.
Then, of course, employee benefits completely went away with the latest tax law. Since drivers use their own vehicles, with the new law they wouldn't be allowed to claim mileage or depreciation as an employee. As a contractor, there are no such restrictions claiming a business expense. Most drivers end up losing money (i.e. tax break) once depreciation/expenses or standard mileage rate are factored in as business expenses.
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#4473395 - 05/08/19 02:22 PM
Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th
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They should go on strike. Their companies use and abuse them, constantly reducing their tips and pay they collect, all while stringing them along with ever changing elaborate schemes to keep them chained to their phones. I think Amazon is worse to their delivery drivers, though. One thing is for certain--these companies truly don't care about their drivers as they are actively working on ways to eliminate them entirely with self-driving car technology.
Maybe the drivers should think about a different career. Most don't consider it a career, though, and work these jobs to supplement their income. They'd likely be much better off mowing lawns.
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#4473396 - 05/08/19 02:29 PM
Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th
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If the company changes the rules afterward, that's one thing. This is the crux of the issue with Uber, vonBaur. They are gaming their employees, constantly changing the rules.
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#4473397 - 05/08/19 02:50 PM
Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th
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If the company changes the rules afterward, that's one thing. This is the crux of the issue with Uber, vonBaur. They are gaming their employees, constantly changing the rules. Same thing goes for just about all this type of service work. Company I have worked for the past 25 years has just done the same. We were forced to sign new employment contracts with out knowing what changes applied to us. Big mistake. We are now looking for way out of this type of work. Never again.
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#4473399 - 05/08/19 03:05 PM
Re: Uber and Lyft Drivers to Go on Strike May 7th
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Most don't consider it a career, though, and work these jobs to supplement their income. They'd likely be much better off mowing lawns. That has not been my experience in Miami. The majority of the Uber/Lyft drivers I've met do it as their primary full time job. Miami may be unique though since there's such a high constant influx of low income/low skilled immigrants who find Uber/Lyft attractive since all you need is a car and a smartphone.
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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