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#4472090 - 04/27/19 11:37 AM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Originally Posted by Sandbagger
Trust me Ted - it's giving me a hard time as well yep

It certainly has been a LONG journey to erect this replica.


"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4472093 - 04/27/19 12:54 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
Radiator flap control now fitted.
Made from micro-tube (0.4 mm and 0.1 mm diameter), photo-etch pulley and 0.125 mm copper wire for the loop handle,

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#4472096 - 04/27/19 01:36 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Mike I have to ask, what are you using for reference material regarding placement of all the components. It almost seems that you have a copy of the blue prints!

Knowing where to attach/place all those parts boggles my mind!


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#4472132 - 04/27/19 09:54 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi Rob,
I use the internet and various publications, although some are 'best guess' as there's not a lot of text or illustrations on these controls:

Osprey Aircraft of the Aces - Fokker D.VII aces Part 1-2 (Norman Franks/Greg VanWyngarden).
Albatros Productions - Windsock - Data file No.9 - Fokker D.VII (P.M. Grosz).
Albatros Productions - Fokker D.VII Anthology 1, 2 and 3 (Ray Rimell).
Kagero Publishing - Fokker D.VII The Lethal Weapon (Tomasz J. Kowalski and Marek Rys).
Wingnut Wings - Instruction manual (Kit No.32027).
Windsock Modelling Special No.3 - Building the Fokker D.VII (Ray Rimell).
Various online resources (e.g. Wikipedia and the Aerodrome forum).
Albatros D.III - Osprey Publishing (James F. Miller).

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#4472133 - 04/27/19 10:00 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
Radiator side stays fitted,

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#4472312 - 04/29/19 06:59 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The front end gas been weathered up a bit to keep it aligned with the associated Fokker D.VII model.
It's ready now for cross brace rigging and the fitting of the twp machine guns with their synchronization drive cables,

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#4472317 - 04/29/19 07:15 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Mike, you had me hanging on the edge of my seat over the last few days with no updates from you on the project. I was afraid you had gone on vacation!! biggrin


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#4472335 - 04/29/19 10:02 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Heh - no it's just that rigging is very time consuming and as I'm using 0.08 mm line through 0.4 mm tube, I have to take breaks to rest the old eyes dizzy

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#4472339 - 04/29/19 10:25 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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He He! I just couldn't resist chiding you!
It's an awesome piece of work Mike.

I'm already thinking about how you will display it to take advantage of all the detailed work you have put into it. I suspect it will be a very large dio format with two aircraft in it and I suspect it will be a challenge to avoid crowding..
I'm thinking more along the lines of a rectangular long display so that the fully finished model doesn't obstruct the view of the undinished one. You have a knack for dioramas so I know it will look great!


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#4472396 - 04/30/19 09:06 AM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi Rob,
Yeah that's about it - keep it simple and uncluttered,

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#4472601 - 05/01/19 07:25 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
Rigging has started now.
Difficult to make out some of the rigging as I had to tie back the flight control lines as they were getting in the way.

So far:
Double bracing across the top of the fuel tank.
Double bracing across the underside of the cockpit floor (2 sets).
Double bracing across the frame bays adjacent to the pilot's seat.
Double bracing across the rear of the pilot's seat support frame.
Double bracing across each vertical fuselage frame.

Done with 0.08 mm Mono-filament, 0.4 mm Nickel-Silver tube and 1:48th scale turnbuckles ('Gaspatch').
The same needs to done on each of the frame bays on each side of the fuselage as well as those under and on top of the fuselage.

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#4472602 - 05/01/19 07:32 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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YIKES!!!

Mike that is a veritable spider's web. What an undertaking!! You get max points for patience and persistence!

It's really looking spiffy mate! That should win best of show hands down!!


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#4472620 - 05/01/19 09:45 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Un believable, Great work.

#4472728 - 05/02/19 04:33 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The top fuselage frames are cross braced.
Onto the sides now, then the make and fit the top decking panel and finally cross brace the bottom fuselage frames,

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#4472884 - 05/03/19 11:20 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The fuselage side frame bays are now cross braced.
Now to make and fit the top decking panel and finally cross brace the bottom fuselage frames,

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#4472957 - 05/04/19 02:22 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The fuselage rear decking panel fitted.
Now to cross brace the bottom fuselage frames, then it's onto the tail skid assembly,

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#4473262 - 05/07/19 12:52 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The fuselage bottom cross bracing is done, which completes the fuselage bracing.
Also the tail skis has been fitted, with 0.125 mm copper wire suspension springs and 0.2 mm lead wire retention cable.

Now it's onto making the cockpit surround padding and fit the two modified 'Gaspatch' machine guns with their synchronization cables,


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#4473448 - 05/08/19 08:09 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
I realized that the fuselage rear decking panel was incorrect.
I made it such that the front edge butted up against the rear of the pilot's seat support frame.
In fact the decking seems to have passed over the seat frame, forming the rear cockpit surround, then onto the top of the cockpit side frames.
After several tries and five broken bracing wires, I think it's just about there now.

Now onto making the padded rim to fit around the cockpit rear decking and after that, the machine guns,

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#4473450 - 05/08/19 08:31 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Mike that must have been one of those claasi, 'OH SH_T" MOMENTS FOR SURE!
Having to redo all those finicky bracing wires!!
I think you owe youself a dram of fine scotch and a break!

The model is looking great mate!


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#4473463 - 05/08/19 10:38 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Mike that is a veritable spider's web.

I build a lot of models, mostly in 1/72. You don't get the kind of detail seen here when working in that small a scale, but you can accomplish a lot. I once had someone comment on the rigging on one of my WW1 models, and was asked how I kept track it all. I replied that it wasn't just hit or miss - every single cable has a place to be and a purpose for being there. I've found that as you start complex rigging it actually becomes a lot simpler when you realize that you're running each cable from and to a specific point. It all starts to make sense, and by the time you're done you can look at it and where others might see a mess, you see a tremendous pattern and logic to it all.

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It's really looking spiffy mate! That should win best of show hands down!!

I have to agree. It's a stunner.


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