#4466311 - 03/18/19 09:51 PM
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Mark: You dare!! We all want to see your Halberstadt.
Rob: The 0.08 mm line is used for cockpit internal control cables, cross bracing, and external flight control cables for rudder, elevator, ailerons and if required tail skid steering. The 0.12 mm is used for external structural rigging, such as cross bracing, flying, landing and incidence cables. Also undercarriage bracing. The lines are secured into the micro-tubes with CA adhesive. The line is looped back through the tube and CA applied at the tube exit. Once set the free end of the line is cut away using a shielded razor blade.
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#4466314 - 03/18/19 09:59 PM
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Mike, I think I will just quit. Absolutely the best! Don't give up Sir! I'm looking forward to seeing your finished model. It's looking very good up to this point. Robert and Mike, I jest. The Halberstdt is nearing completion and I will post pics. But you have to admit, when viewing work of this Caliber it makes one want to “take my marbles and go home” as we say here!
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#4466511 - 03/19/19 07:52 PM
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#4466521 - 03/19/19 08:53 PM
Re: OT - Cockpit quiz
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Mike;
Those Gespatch turnbuckles are amazingly detailed. I believe you once stated they are 1/48 scale which if I am not mistaken is being used on a 1/32 scale model. Is that technically a sizing issue in terms of accuracy of scale or am I missing something. Can you explain?
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#4466589 - 03/20/19 08:23 AM
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Hi Rob, It's just that their 1:32 scale turnbuckles seem over scale if you compare them to turnbuckles on a real WW1 aircraft. I use the 1:48th scale as they are more inline with the actual size, Mike
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#4466605 - 03/20/19 12:00 PM
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[quote=Sandbagger]Hi Rob, It's just that their 1:32 scale turnbuckles seem over scale if you compare them to turnbuckles on a real WW1 aircraft. I use the 1:48th scale as they are more inline with the actual size,
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That's interesting. Seems the manufacturer has it wrong then. Thanks for the explanation.
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#4466606 - 03/20/19 12:05 PM
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Hi Rob, Turnbuckles differed in size dependent on the aircraft and rigging size, but I think for single/dual seat models, the 1:48th is more in scale. The 1:32nd turnbuckles would be, I think, more suited to larger models, such as the AEG, Gotha and Felixstowe,
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#4466834 - 03/21/19 02:23 PM
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Hi all, Using 'Flory' fine clay wash for weathering. Just like the 'Karate Kid' - wash ON ---------- Mike
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#4466870 - 03/21/19 03:55 PM
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Mike, at that stage it looks like it fell in the mud!
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#4466876 - 03/21/19 04:13 PM
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#4466883 - 03/21/19 04:53 PM
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Now it looks just plain pretty!!
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#4466892 - 03/21/19 05:34 PM
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Robert, don’t you mean plane pretty? Because it is.
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#4466917 - 03/21/19 07:55 PM
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Mike I'm always full of ?'s, among other things!! What did you wipe off the clay with, and was there any concern about lifting the decals during the whole process?
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#4467391 - 03/25/19 02:43 PM
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Hi Rob, Before I apply the wash I will have applied all of the required decals and sealed them with airbrushed semi-clear 'Tamiya' acrylic (X35) or 'Alclad' lacquer (Light Sheen (ALC-311)). Doing that not only seals the decals down but prevents any edges from being lifted during wash application. Once the clay wash has been applied and has dried, I use either a fairly stiff and dry brush or very lightly dampened tissue/brush/cotton bud to wipe off the wash. Once I'm happy with the effect I re-seal the decal surfaces again with 'Alclad' Light Sheen.
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#4467460 - 03/25/19 10:44 PM
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Mike I'm always full of ?'s, among other things!! What did you wipe off the clay with, and was there any concern about lifting the decals during the whole process? Robert, Mike makes it sound so easy! I can assure you that following his directions, you can wipe off a decal! I know, I’ve seen me do it! It’s not Mikes fault. As I say, he cannot hold my hand. Besides, I think he uses some kind of miracle fairy dust or something. The man is the master.
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#4467479 - 03/25/19 11:20 PM
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Is it possible that you didn't sufficiently cover the decals with sealer that is resistant to water.? That could cause the decal to raise.
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#4467534 - 03/26/19 08:49 AM
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Hi Rob, Mark is correct that decals can lift. It's really the preparation that's key. Smooth gloss surface, decal on, seal with several light coats, apply wash then re-seal. I have had decals lift, crack etc, but it's usually been due to the type of decal used. For instance, some modelers, including me, have found that the 'Cartograf' supplied decals in the Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel kits may be prone to problems when being applied. However, once down and sealed most decals should not lift,
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#4467557 - 03/26/19 01:56 PM
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Hi Rob, Mark is correct that decals can lift. It's really the preparation that's key. Smooth gloss surface, decal on, seal with several light coats, apply wash then re-seal. I have had decals lift, crack etc, but it's usually been due to the type of decal used. For instance, some modelers, including me, have found that the 'Cartograf' supplied decals in the Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel kits may be prone to problems when being applied. However, once down and sealed most decals should not lift,
Mike I guess I have been lucky in the past. The only time I had trouble with them is having them split/separate when floating them off of their backing and that was either my fault for not sufficiently soaking them or because of manufacturing defect. One point you make is so true, that some brands are much better than others.
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#4467586 - 03/26/19 04:51 PM
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Hi all, The photographer and his camera are done. I still have the other figure to paint yet, Mike
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