I've lived here for 8 years and finally this town is starting a recycling program next month..You will have two cans one for general trash and the other for recyclables,,,Just one big can and it gets sorted at the landfill..It's good to see .Takes a spot of a little extra work but once people get used to it becomes second nature Before you could always take them to the land fill with recyclables separated out..But that's 5 miles and with no car hard to walk It's a small town and a lot don't own cars and some seniors don't drive and most are too lazy to do it Guess the figure they will be gone before the Earth is When I lived in CT our town did recycling two bins one for glass and paper and cardboard were bundled Also there was a 5 cent a can deposit on beverage containers,(some of us remember when there was a 2 cent deposit on soda bottles) You store them up took them to machines at grocery stores and fed them into a cruncher and got a receipt and went inside and got cash,,One side effect was the usual pile of cans at the freeway entrances /exits vanished ..Here I walk the dog downtown in the morning and stop often to pick up water bottles,,cans etc sometimes on a bench that has a trash can at the end...But it's good to see my town taking a step in the right direction..Takes a bit of thinking to do the right thing..The whole world won't change but my town is trying..
Russ Semper Fi
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#4462458 - 02/22/1912:28 PMRe: Plastics Are Awesome For Use By Humans .... But Not So Much For the Rest of the World
I was surprised to see how much plastic the birds out on some of the pacific islands will eat. Dead bird carcasses scattered around, cut them open and their internals are gorged with plastic bottle caps.
That's just humanity doing its part to help evolve smarter, tougher birds...
Oh come on man, I hope that was in jest and not serious.
It was serious, and sarcastic. Evolutionary theory is based upon the specimens that adapt better passing on their DNA and behaviors. That adaption isn't limited to only naturally occuring circumstances.
That isn't advocacy, it is just an observation.
Meaningfully addressing the problem should start with looking at where most of that plastic in the Pacific ocean is coming from. Feel free to take that up in PWEC, as it will be a political problem.
I didn't know this to just recently, black plastic can't be recycled.
Actually ALL plastic can be recyled, you just have to chop it up into little pellets so it can be remoulded into sheets/shapes. The issue with the black plastic (at least in the UK) is that the laser in the sorting machines cant "see" them and classes it as waste and chucks it out the system. Its then bagged up and just taken to the dump because theres nothing in place to actually deal with it ... and no incentive to, bugger the planet, they want profit!
Its the same all over the uk, stuff IS recyleable, however the infurstructer isnt there due to money/business/policital reasons.
That is what I understood but the local TV news said not to put black plastic in the recycle.
There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB. The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed. There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4462624 - 02/23/1901:49 PMRe: Plastics Are Awesome For Use By Humans .... But Not So Much For the Rest of the World
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 4,227rwatson
Thanks rwatson interesting article. Here's a company which started in Europe and now has recycling plants in the U.S. ....Covanta Holding Corp. They recycle just about everything and turn it into electricity or re-sell it in the case of metals. Stock symbol (CVA). https://www.covanta.com/Sustainability/Energy-from-Waste
"everything lives by a law, a central balance sustains all"
#4462720 - 02/24/1912:34 AMRe: Plastics Are Awesome For Use By Humans .... But Not So Much For the Rest of the World
"From our orbital vantage point, we observe an earth without borders, full of peace, beauty and magnificence, and we pray that humanity as a whole can imagine a borderless world as we see it, and strive to live as one in peace." Astronaut William C. McCool RIP, January 29, 2003 - Space Shuttle Columbia
#4462751 - 02/24/1905:31 AMRe: Plastics Are Awesome For Use By Humans .... But Not So Much For the Rest of the World
Joined: Oct 1999 Posts: 15,490Haggart
I Fought Diablo
Those bottles didn't throw themselves into the water.
A quick Google search shows that that picture was taken in Malaysia. No surprise there.
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#4462777 - 02/24/1902:27 PMRe: Plastics Are Awesome For Use By Humans .... But Not So Much For the Rest of the World
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,804Meatsheild Arma3 guy!
that's true Meatsheild which is why the plastics pollution issues will not be solved by recycling alone but must also include continuing advances in recycling and biodegradable products as well as education
"everything lives by a law, a central balance sustains all"
#4462828 - 02/24/1906:08 PMRe: Plastics Are Awesome For Use By Humans .... But Not So Much For the Rest of the World
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 24,252Dart
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Getting seriously draconian with litter penalties (especially in the oceans) might be a good place to start. Landfills might not be the greatest thing, but better for plastics to end up there than in the ocean and environment.
#4462894 - 02/25/1907:47 AMRe: Plastics Are Awesome For Use By Humans .... But Not So Much For the Rest of the World
you guys read the news ? antropods in the bottom of mariana trenchs were found to have plastic pieces in their gut,,,,,BOTTOM of MARIANA TRENCH ! its over ! the whole ecosystem is screwed already. #%&*$# recycling..lets trow a david ID4 tantrum..... it really is too late,
#4463313 - 02/28/1912:18 AMRe: Plastics Are Awesome For Use By Humans .... But Not So Much For the Rest of the World
Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 15,226Nixer
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I personally believe in the tooth fairy, Santa Claus and that deficit spending is sustainable forever. We really do need more Admirals in the Navy than ships and that millions of more poor immigrants will jump start the economy.
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