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#4456821 - 01/10/19 10:34 PM Is the printed page dying?  
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https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/01/10/us/ap-la-georgia-pacific-layoffs.html

I'm not sure yet how this is going to affect me, but I hate that the printed page seems to be dying.

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#4456826 - 01/10/19 11:07 PM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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Can't read, paywall for me, but I can see it as I stopped buying magazines many years ago and books more recently.

#4456827 - 01/10/19 11:09 PM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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Think of the enviroment ! sure, everything now is PDFs or "can we switch your billings to your mailing system its easier, faster, better blah blah" companies are really saving on print, kids don't print research anymore,they just screen grab or take a photo of their google search......the only place printing office material really survive is academics,mostly politics and laywering.

#4456828 - 01/10/19 11:34 PM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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It sure seems to be dying a quick death. Everything from bank and Visa statements to monthly bills is done online. People don't even use printed sporting/entertainment tickets now. I am not even sure my home printer still works. I can't remember the last thing I printed.

Side note, have you ever smelled a paper mill ? They are pretty nasty.

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#4456829 - 01/10/19 11:35 PM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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Printed paper and the printed medium in general will not totally go away but it is most definitely declining in use across all platforms: magazines, newspapers, books, etc. and this trend will continue until the market is done correcting itself.

Companies like Georgia Pacific can survive but they will need to diversify into making other products and they need to do this quickly.


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#4456831 - 01/10/19 11:40 PM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer

Companies like Georgia Pacific can survive but they will need to diversify into making other products and they need to do this quickly.


They might have a chance if they diversify into porn.


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#4456835 - 01/10/19 11:53 PM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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This paper mill also makes toilet paper and paper towels which hasn't been replaced by digital media yet. smile

Anyway, bullet dodged...for now, wife is one of the 300 staying. Kind of a wakeup call for me, though. Nothing is ever certain.

#4456836 - 01/10/19 11:55 PM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: LB4LB]  
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Originally Posted by LB4LB
Side note, have you ever smelled a paper mill ? They are pretty nasty.


One reason we love our carpet-free Honda Element, the tupperware interior doesn't hold the smell. smile

#4456837 - 01/10/19 11:57 PM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG
This paper mill also makes toilet paper and paper towels which hasn't been replaced by digital media yet. smile

Anyway, bullet dodged...for now, wife is one of the 300 staying. Kind of a wakeup call for me, though. Nothing is ever certain.


just wait till they get air blowers on phones

#4456838 - 01/11/19 12:00 AM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG


Anyway, bullet dodged...for now, wife is one of the 300 staying. Kind of a wakeup call for me, though. Nothing is ever certain.


I’m glad to hear about your wife! And you are correct, nothing is certain and no one is irreplaceable unless you happen to be someone like Lebron James, Jeff Bezos or Dwayne Johnson.


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#4456843 - 01/11/19 12:42 AM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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Thanks, PM. This came as a complete surprise and the top story on local News tonight (I love the built-in DVR feature, watch one while you record the other two) as 650+ layoffs is a lot of people for this relatively small area outside of Baton Rouge.

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I hope it works out well for your wife. I know all too well how stressful these situations can be. I tapped danced through that minefield my whole adult working life.


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#4456862 - 01/11/19 04:24 AM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: LB4LB]  
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Originally Posted by LB4LB
It sure seems to be dying a quick death. Everything from bank and Visa statements to monthly bills is done online. People don't even use printed sporting/entertainment tickets now. I am not even sure my home printer still works. I can't remember the last thing I printed.

Side note, have you ever smelled a paper mill ? They are pretty nasty.

Drove through Dryden Ontario many years ago, I still recall it smelt like boiled hotdog water.


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#4456866 - 01/11/19 04:48 AM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: LB4LB]  
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Originally Posted by LB4LB
I hope it works out well for your wife. I know all too well how stressful these situations can be. I tapped danced through that minefield my whole adult working life.


Thanks.

Oh boy, me and jobs...showing up for work one Monday morning in Atlanta. The entire office had been packed up over the weekend and moved to Nebraska. eek Several of us were walking around aimlessly in a gutted office wondering what had happened. Owner ended up in prison.

Wife was recruited by GP on the LSU campus Spring of '89, started working at their Atlanta HQ that Summer. So she's been with them for a long time, by far the most stable part of our lives together over the decades.

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"But it's going to smell like a paper mill, you know that, don't you?" biggrin



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#4456873 - 01/11/19 05:58 AM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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I prefer books. I still have a large library of a couple hundred books, but I was sad when I went from 5000 books to 200 or so books. I read like a machine, but for the last few years I have slowed down to read to enjoy instead of just cranking through it so I can learn things.


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#4456887 - 01/11/19 11:42 AM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG


Oh boy, me and jobs...showing up for work one Monday morning in Atlanta. The entire office had been packed up over the weekend and moved to Nebraska. eek Several of us were walking around aimlessly in a gutted office wondering what had happened.

.



That must have been a totally surreal feeling to experience that. It reminds me of that live news video footage from 2000 where you saw the Enron employees leaving the corporate building in long lines while carrying boxes with their personal things.


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#4456899 - 01/11/19 02:25 PM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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I prefer reading actual books to Kindle/iPad or whatever digital screen thingy. As for magazines, those as well, but I switched to a digital subscription of FlyPast magazine simply because years of issues took up huge amounts of space. Now I download the new issue every month, and have access to all of them on my iPad, so I can read them on long flights. I couldn’t imagine reading a 500-page book on a screen, though. There’s just something about the tactility of a book in your hand, and I find the constant background light from a screen tiring.


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#4456900 - 01/11/19 02:36 PM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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Both together is nice. PDF/ebook on a tablet or PC for searches and to hold a copy of a page you want to refer to regularly... and a paper book for reading.

Spreadsheet open on the second screen (PC) for experimentation and data collation from the text as I go.

Indexes and contents pages are a variable quality thing, and seldom come close to the ability to search in an ebook.

On the move, paper is nicer, but ebooks are much more convenient if you want/need to carry a "shelf-full" of books.


It is theoretically possible to update and push errata & corrections/replacements for ebooks, but this seems to not be something anyone I have books from actually does.

#4456915 - 01/11/19 03:50 PM Re: Is the printed page dying? [Re: MarkG]  
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MarkG, glad your wife's job is OK for the moment and hope it continues that way.

I have a few things where the print and eVersions are bundled together. I prefer pdfs since I can back those up but at least one is through Amazon's newsstand.

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