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#4456763 - 01/10/19 03:02 PM Film genres that seem to be dead  
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Maybe it's a different story in other countries but there are two specific film genres/topics that seem to be effectively dead in the US.


1. US Civil War


Can anyone think of any recent movie besides "Free State of Jones" that actually came out in theaters?


The last commercially successful US Civil war theatrical release was "Cold Mountain" and that was released in 2003!


2. Submarine warfare


"Hunter Killer" from last year completely tanked at the box office. "U-571" from 2000 is the last commercially successful submarine film that I can think of.


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#4456764 - 01/10/19 03:13 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Haven't seen Hunter Killer. Was waiting on DVD. Any good?


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#4456765 - 01/10/19 03:24 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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Originally Posted by Bill_Grant
Haven't seen Hunter Killer. Was waiting on DVD. Any good?


I’ve not seen it yet but will check it out when available on Netflix. The movie stars Gary Oldman snd Gerard Butler.


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#4456770 - 01/10/19 04:19 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I saw Hunter Killer. May be the most unrealistic submarine movie I ever saw but it was a submarine movie and I watch 'em all. Didn't have aliens and giant robots but prbly should have. I enjoyed it. Don't recommend it but I found it entertaining.

#4456853 - 01/11/19 01:59 AM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: finlander]  
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Originally Posted by finlander
I saw Hunter Killer. May be the most unrealistic submarine movie I ever saw but it was a submarine movie and I watch 'em all. Didn't have aliens and giant robots but prbly should have. I enjoyed it. Don't recommend it but I found it entertaining.




LMAO!!! That is the most hilarious and honest movie review I have ever read. I read, " It sucks but if you like sub movies you should watch it, but it had no substance and was totally unrealistic, but it could have been better if it had aliens and/or giant robots. The potential was there. If you like it great, but if you think it sucks, don't blame me, I WARNED YOU!.

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#4456855 - 01/11/19 02:10 AM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: Blade_Meister]  
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Originally Posted by Blade_Meister
Originally Posted by finlander
I saw Hunter Killer. May be the most unrealistic submarine movie I ever saw but it was a submarine movie and I watch 'em all. Didn't have aliens and giant robots but prbly should have. I enjoyed it. Don't recommend it but I found it entertaining.




LMAO!!! That is the most hilarious and honest movie review I have ever read. I read, " It sucks but if you like sub movies you should watch it, but it had no substance and was totally unrealistic, but it could have been better if it had aliens and/or giant robots. The potential was there. If you like it great, but if you think it sucks, don't blame me, I WARNED YOU!.

Price Less finlander. Thank you. yep

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I felt the same way. I am not trying to make some back-handed compliment, but I have watched movies and felt exactly like Finlander. I have enjoyed movies but could not feel justified in recommending them to cinema-files. smile


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#4456894 - 01/11/19 01:44 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Thanks Blade, 20 years of lurking around here finally pays off!

#4456955 - 01/11/19 11:02 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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The «thinking man’s spy movie» seems to be all but dead. I LOVED Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, and am eagerly awaiting the rumoured Smiley’s People remake. Gary Oldman did a fantastic job as always.


In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
#4456956 - 01/11/19 11:28 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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#4456966 - 01/12/19 01:27 AM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Gerard Butler. It's like they keep pushing him as an A list action star when he is a D list daytime movie chap.


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#4456967 - 01/12/19 01:29 AM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I'm just glad Adam Sandler and Ben Stiller stopped making movies.


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#4456971 - 01/12/19 01:50 AM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Oh yes, Me too.

It seems some of the B movie story lines are dead. Films about Hot Rods, Teenagers as Rebels. Napoleonic War and Musicals. ( thank goodness )

#4457000 - 01/12/19 02:37 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Me too, watching Adam Sandler is more fun than poking yourself in the eye with a sharp stick...

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#4457018 - 01/12/19 04:58 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Yes, love Sandler movies, watching them is more fun than punching yourself in the face repeatedly!

Disclaimer: I am not trolling you finlander. I give you my word. Your sense of humor provokes mine also. Seriously! I'm not kidding. No, really...... seriously dude! I'm being for real here!


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#4457029 - 01/12/19 07:20 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Caddyshack was far better but I have to admit, I enjoyed watching Buzz Aldrin kick his sorry ass...

#4457031 - 01/12/19 07:38 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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There's not been a big screen, quality Western it seems in quite a long time. The last big motion picture that I can think of is Open Range. Now there's lots of straight to DVD type Westerns and some of them are pretty good. Sam Shepard did one called Blackthorn that was actually pretty good.(Also had beautiful cinematography) I also saw a trailer on Youtube for another B quality Western with one of Clint Eastwood's sons. The movie and quality looked pretty crappy in my opinion but this young man definately has his Dad's look and with the right vision and production (If he's got the acting ability) he could probably star in some serious Westerns. I've always felt that Kevin Costner is not really a great actor, however, he does shine in the genre of Westerns. That is something that I think he does very well not only as a director but also in his acting style and personality which to me fits that genre for some reason. I'm still hoping that he's got another good one in him.

#4457034 - 01/12/19 07:49 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: Coot]  
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Originally Posted by Coot
There's not been a big screen, quality Western it seems in quite a long time. The last big motion picture that I can think of is Open Range. Now there's lots of straight to DVD type Westerns and some of them are pretty good. Sam Shepard did one called Blackthorn that was actually pretty good.(Also had beautiful cinematography) I also saw a trailer on Youtube for another B quality Western with one of Clint Eastwood's sons. The movie and quality looked pretty crappy in my opinion but this young man definately has his Dad's look and with the right vision and production (If he's got the acting ability) he could probably star in some serious Westerns. I've always felt that Kevin Costner is not really a great actor, however, he does shine in the genre of Westerns. That is something that I think he does very well not only as a director but also in his acting style and personality which to me fits that genre for some reason. I'm still hoping that he's got another good one in him.


What about True Grit? It’s a remake, but a pretty good one, IMO.

I agree about Costner. Open Range is a favourite of mine.


In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
#4457054 - 01/12/19 08:48 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Forgot about that one semmern. Yes I thought it was pretty good. Sometimes he seems to do it too much in his movies but his grumbly personality and delivery worked here. Its still not on the same level as those others I feel. I'm a fan of the original True Grit. There was also that "Homesman" or something with Tommy Lee Jones and I did not think that was good at all. Maybe because its not really a true Western. More of an odd, not terribly interesting story set in that period. I liked "The Missing" with Tommy Lee Jones. Again those are all from over a decade ago.

Speaking of Jeff Bridges I watched his Wild Bill Hickok movie from the 90s and that was horrible. It had some interesting ideas and it wasn't so much him(I kind of like his flare and style in portraying that character though its likely not accurate)but the movie was just goofy and terrible in my opinion. It has some good actors but also some that did not fit. The writing and story were not very good either and don't like how they handled the ending. Very much a Hollywood "Western" in the worse sense.

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#4457057 - 01/12/19 09:16 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: semmern]  
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I miss the writing and pacing of movies like in the old days. I find myself constantly yearning for a Humphrey Bogart or Hitchcock movie.

Originally Posted by semmern
The «thinking man’s spy movie» seems to be all but dead. I LOVED Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, and am eagerly awaiting the rumoured Smiley’s People remake. Gary Oldman did a fantastic job as always.

Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy was a welcome throwback to that era. You should definitely watch "The Angel" on Netflix as well, I found it a pretty decent spy flick for current standards smile

@Coot: What about Django Unchained?

#4457059 - 01/12/19 09:21 PM Re: Film genres that seem to be dead [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Tinker, Tailor was not *anything* like as good as the original book, or even the TV series. I did manage to watch it all the way through, but not on the first viewing. Was disappointed in it.

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