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#4454723 - 12/24/18 02:22 PM Errors Found in Labels for Skin  
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When I join a new unit, I always keep an eye on the skins for the aces to see if they appear when we change aircraft. On several occasions I have found that the label on the skin does not match the label used for the pilot in the game, especially if he is a big fish with a number of aircraft skins in different units. I usually just change them but I thought I should share so that no one will miss out on seeing these wonderful skins when these pilots are encountered.

The one I found yesterday was Max Ritter von Muller. His Alb DIII early for Jasta 28w was mislabeled as _Max Ritter_von Muller. The label used for him in the game is _Max Ritter von_Muller. If these don't match, the skin for this machine will not appear and he will just a default skin. Simply change the label and you get to fly with, or against, him is his beautiful red Albatross. All the other machines assigned to him match this label, unless I missed one.

I will continue to post these errors as I find them and invite you all to post these errors as they are found. Let's not miss out a single one of these beautifully done skins because of a typo.
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#4454762 - 12/24/18 05:23 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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That would be my mistake. After making so many, I put the "_" in the wrong spot. Just rename the skin to "Off_Alb_DIII_early_ace_t_Jasta 28w 1917_Max Ritter von_Muller" and all will be good.

Thanks for pointing this error out, and by all means... find more, post more. Hate to see our work not shown in the game over something as simple as this.

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#4454809 - 12/24/18 11:52 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: OvStachel]  
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will do skipper transformer

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#4454862 - 12/25/18 02:48 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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Where does one make this change? Sorry for my ignorance.

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#4454885 - 12/25/18 08:51 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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you can find the skins folder here... the skin will be there provided you have downloaded and installed the skins pack.

X:\OBDSoftware\WOFF\OBDWW1 Over Flanders Fields\campaigns\CampaignData\Skins


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#4454890 - 12/25/18 10:59 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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Blade M: once you find the skin in the file you just left click it and rename the image.

#4454904 - 12/26/18 03:12 AM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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Thanks to both of you, I found and changed it. salute

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#4454932 - 12/26/18 04:43 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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Originally Posted by jerbear
Blade M: once you find the skin in the file you just left click it and rename the image.


Thinks that's Right Click and rename winkngrin


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#4455445 - 12/31/18 12:25 AM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Found another in Jasta 28w. The Alb DIII early for Emil Schafer is labeled:

_Karl Emil Schafer

should be:

_Karl Emil_Schafer

#4455456 - 12/31/18 03:14 AM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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Thanks jerbear. I am windering though? Will these resort back to the wrong way when ever OBD makes another update?

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#4455463 - 12/31/18 04:51 AM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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No, they won't. Best just to rename the ones that are found and keep coming back to check if there is more. I'm sure there are more. We had so many, it was easy to make small mistakes like where a '_' went, or a mis-spelling.. .etc.


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#4455560 - 12/31/18 09:37 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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I have found several more. I looked at German pilots only. My only method was to confirm that an underscore immediately preceded the last name (or last hyphenated name). The following ones do not have an underscore where needed:

Alb DIII Jasta 3 17 Carl Menckhoff (there's a second one that is proper (Carl_Menckhoff) so if I just delete the one without the underscore it should be OK, correct?)

Alb DIII early J2 17 Gustav Kinkel

Alb DIII J3 17 Hans-Joachim Rogalla von Bieberstein
Alb DIII early J3 17 Hans-Joachim Rogalla von Bieberstein
Alb DV later J3 17 Hans-Joachim Rogalla von Bieberstein

Alb DIII early J26 17 Rudolf Weckbrodt

Alb DIII OAW J3 17 Carl Menckhoff

Alb DV later J11 17 Carlos 'Karl' Meyer Baldo
Alb DVa J4 17 Carlos 'Karl' Meyer Baldo
Alb DVa J4 18 Carlos 'Karl' Meyer Baldo
Alb DVa J11 17 Carlos 'Karl' Meyer Baldo
Fok DVII J4 18 Carlos 'Karl' Meyer Baldo
Fok DVII OAW J4 18 Carlos 'Karl' Meyer Baldo
Fok DVIIf OAW J4 18 Carlos 'Karl' Meyer Baldo

Alb DV later J23 17 Maximilian Edler von Daniels
Alb DVa J61 18 Maximilian Edler von Daniels

Alb DV later J35 17 Joachim von Stein zu Lausnitz

Alb DV later J37 17 Ascan Klee Gobert

Alb DVa J4 17 Viktor von Pressentin von Rautter
Alb DVa J4 18 Viktor von Pressentin von Rautter

Alb DVa J7 17 Paul Huttenrauch
Alb DVa J7 18 Paul Huttenrauch

Alb DVa J16 17 Karl Schattauer



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#4455567 - 12/31/18 10:04 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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Off_Alb_DIII_early_ace_t_Jasta 18 1917_Paul _Strahle.dds

There is a space after "Paul" that shouldn't be there.


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#4455583 - 01/01/19 12:19 AM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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If there is a dupe with a near identical name that looks correct, the incorrect one cane be deleted. When we add corrected skins to a patch, it just adds the skin. It doesn't delete the original file.

Best to just keep this thread going and correct the names as we find them. To make a patch to add corrected skins would balloon to massive size in no time.


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#4455652 - 01/01/19 03:40 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: OvStachel]  
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I am afraid that what I started may cause more problems than it solves. I would not go hunting for errors in my skin files. I would only check for them as you are going through a campaign for that Jasta/Squadron/Esc. If you get a new ace assigned to the unit who does not have a skin, just check the skin files to see if there is one for him in that period, with that aircraft type that is not appearing in the game before I made changes. Usually there is another skin for this ace, either in that unit or another one. I would then compare them to see if there are differences in the spacing for the one that does not appear. Then and only then make a change.

Example is the first change I made in the beginning of this thread for Max Ritter von Muller. There were other skins in Jasta 28w that WERE appearing so I knew that this one was wrong.

Please be VERY careful before you start making changes to you skin files. Have some evidence that there is a problem before you make changes.

#4455664 - 01/01/19 04:52 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: OvStachel]  
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Originally Posted by OvStachel
Best to just keep this thread going and correct the names as we find them. To make a patch to add corrected skins would balloon to massive size in no time.


Sorry, but now I'm confused. The corrected skin names (for all the ones listed in this thread) will be included in the next patch, won't they? I thought that's what you told Blade_Meister.

#4455666 - 01/01/19 05:06 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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Would it be possible for someone to write piece of code/patch to correct the incorrect skin names that have been found and then put the code/patch on the mods page?

Surely people could post in this thread all the incorrect skins they have found (along with the correct names) and these could then be incorporated into a single patch?

Unfortunately I do not know how to programme otherwise I would offer to do this myself.

I realise it would potentially be a massive undertaking?


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#4455736 - 01/02/19 03:36 AM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: hoongadoonga]  
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I never said that. I said I'd rather not because it will balloon the size of the patch quickly.


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#4455792 - 01/02/19 05:39 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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It may be possible to have a routine that backs up the skins folder and then creates a new one with all the proper skins. Of course anyone who created custom skins directly in the original skins folder, would have to copy them back from the backup copy.

How do you feel about that approach?

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#4455812 - 01/02/19 07:41 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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My apologies, OvS. I got confused about why the next patch wouldn't cause the skins to revert back to the incorrect names. I now realize that it's because the next patch will have no skins files at all, so any manual adjustments that I made to skin file names will not be affected.


Here's another factor to consider. ArisFuser discovered that they need to be DST1 files and at least one was not, so there may be others.

See page 5 of this thread: link



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#4455839 - 01/02/19 09:50 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: hoongadoonga]  
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AHHHH! explode Sorry OV...looks like I started a snowball over a couple of small human errors. I don't think this is a major problem for anyone to get excited about, just something to keep an eye on. A little proof reading as you go.

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#4455891 - 01/03/19 07:08 AM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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Hi Robert. I think a routine that cross-checks the actual names in the datafile to the skins in the folder would be great.

We tried this visually, and were asked to make absolutely sure we were correct with out work, but man... I guess mistakes still slipped by. There were just so many skins, over 4K I think?
That kind of routine would be great and could give you as a user a list to make your own corrections.

I will eventually speak with Pol and see if there is a way we can a patch to just the skins folder. Meaning, instead of burdening the main game patch, maybe offer a seperate update patch to the skins. It's hard because as you can see.. you'll get a patch, to a patch, to a patch.... etc. But it needs to be done, there are already enough errors to justify the need for it.

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#4455893 - 01/03/19 07:12 AM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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Guys, I'm not offended at all. I appreciate you guys finding these issues and bringing them forward. It's important. As you can imagine (and I'm sure any of the team that spent all our time making these skins for the game feels the same) it's heart-breaking to think that even one of my works would not be seen because of a spelling error or that I put a space somewhere... etc.

So please, have at it. When you find 'em, post 'em. We'll eventually work something out to get better system to correct it for you, but for now.... it's manual, done by the user.

All the best,

OvS

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#4464627 - 03/09/19 12:30 AM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: hoongadoonga]  
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Found a new one: Jasta 5, Alb DIII early. Both Joseph Mai and Hans Berr are assigned the same skin with the "all seeing eye" on a pyramid, Masonic, I guess. I don't know for sure which is correct but on the net I see models with this symbol used for Mai so I suspect it s Berr that is not correct because none of his later skins shows anything like this. Mai isn't using it later either though, uses a quarter moon after this aircraft.

#4464692 - 03/09/19 01:59 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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That one is ok. Hans Berr and Joseph Mai share that plane at one point. You won't see them flying it at the same time.

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#4464788 - 03/10/19 01:38 AM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: OvStachel]  
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COOL, THANX. salute

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#4464801 - 03/10/19 08:42 AM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: jerbear]  
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Well jerbear now that you have started this are you going to make a list of changes to be made for us OCD types to fix things?

#4464888 - 03/10/19 11:21 PM Re: Errors Found in Labels for Skin [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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As I find them.

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