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#4451968 - 12/05/18 06:28 PM SpaceX First Stage Landing Failure  
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No news yet but I was watching the launch live and the first stage started spinning out of control on its way to landing and they cut the video.


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#4451969 - 12/05/18 06:35 PM Re: SpaceX First Stage Landing Failure [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Loss of control begins at about the 26 minute mark.




https://youtu.be/Esh1jHT9oTA


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#4451979 - 12/05/18 07:20 PM Re: SpaceX First Stage Landing Failure [Re: F4UDash4]  
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“Government has three primary functions. It should provide for military defense of the nation. It should enforce contracts between individuals. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property. When government-- in pursuit of good intentions tries to rearrange the economy, legislate morality, or help special interests, the cost comes in inefficiency, lack of motivation, and loss of freedom. Government should be a referee, not an active player.” - Milton Friedman
#4452037 - 12/06/18 04:28 AM Re: SpaceX First Stage Landing Failure [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Was this the stage one that was up for its third time?

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#4452038 - 12/06/18 04:48 AM Re: SpaceX First Stage Landing Failure [Re: F4UDash4]  
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#4452051 - 12/06/18 07:47 AM Re: SpaceX First Stage Landing Failure [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Confirmed it was the fins, there was a pump issue,.
It defaulted to a safe landing protocol and went for a water landing - which it made safely.

Also this was a brand new booster, not a pre used one..

(this is all from. Scott Manleys video)

https://youtu.be/wNpDWSfSd8k

#4452076 - 12/06/18 12:59 PM Re: SpaceX First Stage Landing Failure [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Here we go, even tho it's a malfunctioning landing.. Beautiful.

https://youtu.be/LFdep0qCmYA

#4452085 - 12/06/18 01:39 PM Re: SpaceX First Stage Landing Failure [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Was this the stage one that was up for it's third time?



No. Brand new. The one you are referencing flew successfully last week.


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#4452096 - 12/06/18 03:11 PM Re: SpaceX First Stage Landing Failure [Re: F4UDash4]  
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#%&*$#.

Well, this stuff happens with rockets, and is a great opportunity to investigate where the failure was to make the next version stronger. One of the engines looks like they malfunctioned in the video.

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#4452098 - 12/06/18 03:21 PM Re: SpaceX First Stage Landing Failure [Re: Khai]  
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Originally Posted by Khai
Confirmed it was the fins, there was a pump issue,.
It defaulted to a safe landing protocol and went for a water landing - which it made safely.

Also this was a brand new booster, not a pre used one..

(this is all from. Scott Manleys video)

https://youtu.be/wNpDWSfSd8k


Not so sure a fin? Look at the licks of lame from one of the sputtering engines. Space X will confirm whatever it was for us armchair rocket scientists.

#4452116 - 12/06/18 05:09 PM Re: SpaceX First Stage Landing Failure [Re: F4UDash4]  
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in the referenced vid, it's confirmed by Elon Musk as a pump / fin issue.

Edit

found the tweet referenced -

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070386062164283392

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