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#4447846 - 11/10/18 02:15 AM California fires  
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Another set of fires devastating California.

terrible, terrible, terrible.

http://fortune.com/2018/11/08/california-fires-camp-fire-chico-butte-county-wildfires-google-map/

Paradise Ranch where many TV shows shot destroyed.


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#4447848 - 11/10/18 02:25 AM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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#4447855 - 11/10/18 04:14 AM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Wonder how they were started ?

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#4447873 - 11/10/18 11:21 AM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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the problem is not so much how they start but in what condition the area is, this kind of fires are becoming more and more frequent and devastating.

#4447961 - 11/10/18 08:58 PM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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I live 80 miles from that fire and the smoke was so thick yesterday I looked at the sun through my telescope - with no filter.

#4448003 - 11/11/18 12:15 AM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/stunning-nasa-photos-show-california-033732721.html

California is over 163,000 square miles. That smoke, in totality, is covering nearly that much area (fortunately mostly over the ocean though).

I've seen denser, thicker smoke in the sky around here before, but never this thick and heavy at ground level. It's Saturday afternoon and the streets are nearly deserted compared to normal.

#4448012 - 11/11/18 12:59 AM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Just read about a guy who went back to his place in Paradise - completely leveled except for some plumbing and his gun safe, which was peppered with holes because the heat was so intense the guns inside went off.

That the heat was intense enough to set off guns isn't surprising, but for the bullets to penetrate a SAFE? That metal had to be glowing...

#4448277 - 11/12/18 02:56 PM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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"6,700 structures destroyed, most are homes"

I get the feeling the population of Austin, TX will get another boost in the coming years


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#4448292 - 11/12/18 04:06 PM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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#4448294 - 11/12/18 04:19 PM Re: California fires [Re: Haggart]  
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Originally Posted by Haggart
"6,700 structures destroyed, most are homes"

I get the feeling the population of Austin, TX will get another boost in the coming years


The population of Texas has grown by 4.4 million since 2008. I’m sure a large percentage of that number consists of people who relocated from California to Texas.


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#4448302 - 11/12/18 05:46 PM Re: California fires [Re: Zamzow]  
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Originally Posted by Zamzow
Just read about a guy who went back to his place in Paradise - completely leveled except for some plumbing and his gun safe, which was peppered with holes because the heat was so intense the guns inside went off.

That the heat was intense enough to set off guns isn't surprising, but for the bullets to penetrate a SAFE? That metal had to be glowing...


Shouldn't that be ammunition?


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4448306 - 11/12/18 06:04 PM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
Originally Posted by Zamzow
Just read about a guy who went back to his place in Paradise - completely leveled except for some plumbing and his gun safe, which was peppered with holes because the heat was so intense the guns inside went off.

That the heat was intense enough to set off guns isn't surprising, but for the bullets to penetrate a SAFE? That metal had to be glowing...


Shouldn't that be ammunition?


I was wondering about that too - wouldn't ammo just explode? I know jack about guns but I'd think a bullet would have to be "shot" through a gun to penetrate even red hot steel...

So I just figured there must have been loaded guns inside the safe....


#4448307 - 11/12/18 06:12 PM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Yes the ammo would just explode. A loaded gun would have the ammo cook off just like if the trigger was pulled.


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4448308 - 11/12/18 06:14 PM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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at some point people in that region will learn to build 100% non combustible at least with the exterior.

as for ammo going off. No, they can go off with quite a bit of force. They are normally stored stacked in plastic tubed. As they heat up the plastic starts to melt and they get packed in there pretty tight. Then they go off and the casing plus what is next to them act as a makeshift barrel. The primer goes off first and the round shoots out at maybe 1/4th the force it would come out if fired from a gun. As more rounds go off the subsequent rounds lose force as they are no longer packed tightly in.

One of the thing they warn firefighters about in house fires is ammunition going off. The odds of getting stuck are low and the odds of being severely hurt by it are even lower but it can happen.

#4448421 - 11/13/18 07:39 AM Re: California fires [Re: Master]  
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Originally Posted by Master
at some point people in that region will learn to build 100% non combustible at least with the exterior.


I decided as a child just from certain fairy tales that if I ever buy a house it'll be made of brick, stone, cement, whatever, and screw appearances.

No matter where it sits.

I'll rent wood. Not buying it.

#4448457 - 11/13/18 02:58 PM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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November is supposed to be the rainy season in California but people are asking what happened to it - maybe those rainy seasons are ending.


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#4448458 - 11/13/18 03:14 PM Re: California fires [Re: Haggart]  
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Originally Posted by Haggart
November is supposed to be the rainy season in California but people are asking what happened to it - maybe those rainy seasons are ending.



Those rainy seasons in November migrated to Florida! I know!


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#4448460 - 11/13/18 03:18 PM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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If and when the Cali rainy season starts more devastation will occur as there is no vegetation to hold the land in place.


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4448486 - 11/13/18 05:20 PM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
If and when the Cali rainy season starts more devastation will occur as there is no vegetation to hold the land in place.

In Juan's 2nd video in the series I posted above he was saying that exact thing, the ground is so dry the water just runs off it and doesn't soak in, he was demonstrating that from about 2 days before and not too far from where the fire started. He lives about 40 miles south of where the fire is, and was saying he has his bug-out plan in place just in case.


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#4448706 - 11/14/18 05:54 PM Re: California fires [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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