"6,700 structures destroyed, most are homes"

I get the feeling the population of Austin, TX will get another boost in the coming years

Just read about a guy who went back to his place in Paradise - completely leveled except for some plumbing and his gun safe, which was peppered with holes because the heat was so intense the guns inside went off.

That the heat was intense enough to set off guns isn't surprising, but for the bullets to penetrate a SAFE? That metal had to be glowing...

Shouldn't that be ammunition?

at some point people in that region will learn to build 100% non combustible at least with the exterior.

November is supposed to be the rainy season in California but people are asking what happened to it - maybe those rainy seasons are ending.

If and when the Cali rainy season starts more devastation will occur as there is no vegetation to hold the land in place.

In Juan's 2nd video in the series I posted above he was saying that exact thing, the ground is so dry the water just runs off it and doesn't soak in, he was demonstrating that from about 2 days before and not too far from where the fire started. He lives about 40 miles south of where the fire is, and was saying he has his bug-out plan in place just in case.

Another set of fires devastating California.

So I just figured there must have been loaded guns inside the safe....

as for ammo going off. No, they can go off with quite a bit of force. They are normally stored stacked in plastic tubed. As they heat up the plastic starts to melt and they get packed in there pretty tight. Then they go off and the casing plus what is next to them act as a makeshift barrel. The primer goes off first and the round shoots out at maybe 1/4th the force it would come out if fired from a gun. As more rounds go off the subsequent rounds lose force as they are no longer packed tightly in.

The barrel of the gun directs the force as forward momentum.

Please educate yourself. A gun and ammunition are separate entities. A gun can not expel a projectile without ammunition. Ammunition can release it's energy if exposed to excessive heat.

Sorry if I offend you.

None taken. This wasn't a gun sub-conversation anyway, it's just crazy that whether from an actual "barrel" or storage box that a bullet could go through...

That safe had to be near molten....

Behind the scenes at McClellan Field with Juan and the Air Super Tankers that are dropping retardant on the fires



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW0XQI525UE

I can't understand why British media is focussing on the 'plight' of celebs, .

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I couldn't care less if Kim Kardashian has suffered loss. Perhaps she could smother the fire with her massive arse.

In light of the potentially flamable emissions from it... is it worth the risk for her to try?

In my younger days it was common practice when out camping to surreptitiously chuck a handful of 22 cartridges in the fire and retire to watch the fun.

This video really shows the destruction - been in California near 50 years and I've never seen it this bad - and this was posted November 14th!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=193&v=UkVdrTMZMEY

Been here since 1979 and nothing matches what I just saw in that video either.
Unfortunately a tragedy of the same magnitude could easily happen to Big Bear or any of the other mountain communities that are nestled in the trees just like Paradise.


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Establishing communities/towns in the forest has its risks as we're once again finding out

Found this posted by Ted Nugent on Facebook, a friend of his a ranger posted this.

Why the increase in explosive wildfires?
The summer of 2003, while serving as a Boy Scout Forestry merit badge counselor, I took three of our scouts to a National Forest Ranger Station in Northern California to interview a forest ranger. We were ushered into a high-ranking ranger office where all four walls were covered with bookshelves filled with thick binders floor to ceiling. The ranger sadly explained that he spent three-quarters of his time dealing with injunctions that environmentalist groups have filed against logging companies to keep them from going into the forest to harvest dead trees. Pointing to his walls, the ranger quipped that the binders were filled with all the injunctions.
The ranger detailed for the scouts that the environmentalists tie up the logging companies in court for so long that eventually, the trees become full of beetles and no longer profitable to harvest and then the injunction is dropped. He said it will now cost billions of dollars to clean up the forests, whereas, if the loggers were allowed in, they could clean up the forests and generate a revenue stream for State and National Forests.
The ranger, while shaking his head, indicated that the environmentalists have been doing this for years and are hurting the forests as it has caused an extraordinary number of dead trees in the forests. He explained that this not only provides more tinder for catastrophic crown fires (vs. healthy and regularly occurring creeping fires which clean out the forest floor), but also attracts bark beetles which causes the trees to die. The ranger further explained that because of environmentalists not allowing for controlled burns in populated areas and fire suppression in wilderness areas that a disastrous situation has been created in the forests.
He glumly predicted that when not if, a major fire gets out of control in the Tahoe basin, that it will be explosive with fast-moving fires with large loss of life since there are only three major ways in and out of Lake Tahoe area.
Bottom line, the devastation we are seeing in CA right now is man-made…by the leadership of your environmentalist groups and their fellow traveler friends in government…NOT the myth of global warming.

In addition to this article, don't forget the homeless idiots who start so many of the fires, and allahpuked who have admitted they are using them to wreak havoc/terror here...

This video really shows the destruction - been in California near 50 years and I've never seen it this bad - and this was posted November 14th!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=193&v=UkVdrTMZMEY

Oh man reading the comments on that video, directed energy weapons and thermite grenades???

Name a place where there isn't risk in one form or another, by nature or humanity. Name just one.

JimK ....."by the leadership of your environmentalist groups "

Well im not an environmentalist nor do i donate to any such groups. However i do know that forest fires are also started by such things as lightning and over the great spans of time forest fires have become part of the natural process of the life of forests. Thus, people can blame each other or this group or that but even in Colorado people take their chances and live in the beautiful houses surrounded by plenty of brush and trees and if its dry enough and lightning hits nearby there's always a chance a big fire could get started.

There's a guy in California that didn't live in a regular neighborhood but had some land where his house was. He had cleared long ago most of the trees and brush at least 100 ft away from his house so that when the fires arrived the fire trucks and ground crew could drive all around his house and the firecrews were able to easily keep the flames away from his house and themselves a distance from them while they worked.