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#4447574 - 11/08/18 02:47 PM Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord  
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Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46136564

Norway has evacuated the entire crew of one of its warships after it collided in a fjord with an oil tanker.
Seven people were lightly injured in the collision in the Hjeltefjord near Bergen in the early hours of Thursday, rescuers say. The frigate has been listing dangerously.
The KNM Helge Ingstad had been returning from Nato military exercises.
The tanker, the Sola TS, was only slightly damaged and it appears that it did not spill oil.
It was not immediately clear what had caused the collision, which reportedly occurred shortly after 04:00 (03:00 GMT), and led to 137 people being taken off the warship.


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#4447575 - 11/08/18 02:49 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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Glad it sounds like the folks are okay, and also, not being political, but glad it wasn't one of America's warships doing the colliding this time.

#4447576 - 11/08/18 02:50 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Glad it sounds like the folks are okay, and also, not being political, but glad it wasn't one of America's warships doing the colliding this time.


Yes, good to know that no deaths reported. The warship does not look too good based on that twitter image in the article!


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#4447588 - 11/08/18 03:38 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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That video looked bad. Taken lots of water and a serious list to stern and starboard.


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#4447592 - 11/08/18 04:00 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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Yep. They beached her to stop her sinking. Pretty bad, this. One of our most advanced warships. Wonder who is to blame for the collision.


In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
#4447593 - 11/08/18 04:01 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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I wonder how the #%&*$# they managed to do that.

The tanker had the right of way due to where it came from and direction of traffic, so it is entirely the frigate's fault.
How does a modern frigate not manage to detect a supertanker in calm sees with it's sensors or even the Mk IIs or turn away at the last minute? It's not like it takes 2 miles to turn a frigate...

This smells of someone falling asleep on the bridge.

A fifth of our navy crippled :P thankfully they had the sense to sail/tow the ship to the shallows so it won't sink, but still it'll cost a #%&*$# to repair/refurbish it.

#4447598 - 11/08/18 04:22 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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That is some gash,


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#4447599 - 11/08/18 04:44 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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I’m so glad they put that “music” to the video. It made it so much more informative and enjoyable.

Why do people think their music additions improve videos?


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#4447601 - 11/08/18 05:09 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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I will be surprised if that warship ever sees active duty again. Sad. Hope they prove me wrong.


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#4447613 - 11/08/18 05:51 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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SHould be easily repaired. Just mostly hull damage and flooding. Just grab a floating dock and ship it a drydock.

#4447615 - 11/08/18 06:00 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: EAF331 MadDog]  
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Originally Posted by EAF331 MadDog
SHould be easily repaired. Just mostly hull damage and flooding. Just grab a floating dock and ship it a drydock.

That is as long as the drydock stays afloat...

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Russia’s only aircraft carrier appears to have been damaged while undergoing repairs after the dry dock it was being held in sank.
One person is missing and four others injured following the incident involving the Admiral Kuznetsov, which had been receiving an upgrade at the one of the world’s largest floating docks in the Kola Bay near Murmansk.


Dry dock sinks


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#4447713 - 11/09/18 02:54 AM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: EAF331 MadDog]  
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Originally Posted by EAF331 MadDog
SHould be easily repaired. Just mostly hull damage and flooding. Just grab a floating dock and ship it a drydock.


Depends on how damaged the keel is. If it is bent enough to affect handling safely at top speed, it going to get junked.

#4447715 - 11/09/18 03:00 AM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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Glad it didn't sink and take part of the crew with it.


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#4448483 - 11/13/18 05:11 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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She has slipped into deeper water, almost completely submerged now. I can't imagine it ever being cost effective to raise and refurbish this vessel now.

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#4448547 - 11/13/18 10:05 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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Yeah, I was proven wrong frown

Lots of speculations in the press here, if the wires keeping it up was erronously attached and so forth. Also about the accident itself.

It will be raised, that is a given. Refurbished is another. The way our pissant #%&*$# military and politicans thinks it'll be probbaly written off and not replaced.

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“Government has three primary functions. It should provide for military defense of the nation. It should enforce contracts between individuals. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property. When government-- in pursuit of good intentions tries to rearrange the economy, legislate morality, or help special interests, the cost come in inefficiency, lack of motivation, and loss of freedom. Government should be a referee, not an active player.” - Milton Friedman
#4451153 - 11/30/18 12:48 PM Re: Helge Ingstad: Warship collides with tanker in fjord [Re: Patrocles]  
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Wow, both ships under VTS control!!!!!!

Don't people know how to slow down in questionable traffic situations.

First thing I was taught when still a deckhand and learning to drive just point to point, "When in doubt, pull em back!". meaning if you have any questions on navigation SLOW DOWN to minimum steerage speed.

Was this Naval vessel inbound to port after being at sea for awhile? If so, that says a lot to me.


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Yes it was returning from a NATO exercise. I didn't read the article posted but another article and a watch change had taken place ~15 minutes earlier.


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In my old business, a vast majority of near misses, mishaps and, accidents at sea occurred when a vessel was inbound for shore leave, crew changes etc.

When you have been at sea for awhile you take chances to get "home" and off the freakin boat.

I have done it myself, even when telling myself to NOT do it.

Not very often though, and I have pissed off more than a few crew members when I wouldn't go against my judgement to get them home quicker.

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