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#4445633 - 10/27/18 12:51 AM Opinions needed for next graphics card.  
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Hi fellas...
I'm considering replacing my 1050Ti with a Radeon 500 series. Reason being the Acer monitor I bought has serious ghosting issues, which I WILL be replacing and I wanted to take advantage of the free-synch that almost every cheaper TN monitor has. Everything G-synch is over 500 USD!!

Since I'm replacing the monitor, might as well do it right and get it on the same page as the card.

Instead of shelling out 700 on just a monitor, I was thinking I can get away with about 600 for a solid monitor and an equivalent if not better card than what I have.

I have never owned an AMD, so I am not familiar with what the 1050Ti would be equivalent to.

So hit me with some opinions on AMD, best bang for buck card and if it's worth doing. Like I said, the 1050Ti is fine, works great, but other than V-synch, I have no other option.

Thanks as always!

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#4445636 - 10/27/18 01:15 AM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Just remember, if you go with AMD, you might not be able to play WOFF & WOTR until / if AMD ever "fixes" their video drivers to allow you to play the two games.

If you have been reading the WOFF / WOTR threads, you will notice that the AMD drivers no longer support WOFF or WOTR in their current form.


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#4445642 - 10/27/18 02:58 AM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: Panama Red]  
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Originally Posted by Panama Red
Just remember, if you go with AMD, you might not be able to play WOFF & WOTR until / if AMD ever "fixes" their video drivers to allow you to play the two games.

If you have been reading the WOFF / WOTR threads, you will notice that the AMD drivers no longer support WOFF or WOTR in their current form.


And AMD is not a recommended go to as per the devs.


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#4445655 - 10/27/18 04:57 AM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Well that's good. I just saved money. Definitely NOT loosing a favorite game (and one I helped make LOL!) over a graphics card.

Poo-poo on AMD... I'll just buy a new monitor.

Thanks!


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#4445669 - 10/27/18 08:56 AM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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I did run an AMD HD7970 and if compare this to my actual GTX1080, it did do a great job in running WoFF.
If hunting for an AMD RX500 card, wait for the new RX590, if wanting to get an much better card then your actual 1050ti. The DirectX9 problems guess here are we talking about are solved by AMD, so nothing holts your back.

Only in your case I would not go for the Vcard, but spent it in the Gsync monitor and if being a Nvidia guy also more future prove.

#4445710 - 10/27/18 03:53 PM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Maybe skip the freesync or gsync and sve more cash for a decent GPU. Things run great without it 144 mhz or whatever wink. Maybe get a monitor that does 75mhz and then run vsync on that with a decent Nvidia graphics card (depends on budget).

I got a 34" Acer 3440 x 1440 that does 75mhz but there are some great 28" or 32" monitors depending on budget.

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#4445831 - 10/28/18 12:21 PM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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anybody have any experience with the new very widescreen gaming monitors ?
https://www.samsung.com/levant/monitors/c49hg90/


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#4445899 - 10/28/18 08:01 PM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Just passing on my experience - running a Radeon RX 470 4GB and it runs both WOFF and Wings Over the Reich excellently (paired with an I3-7100 cpu ) - so Idk if u need to believe the AMD problem myth - at least it hasn't shown to be true in my case - all works really well smile

#4445906 - 10/28/18 09:26 PM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Redwolf:
How old are your AMD drivers ???

It has been the current AMD drivers from the past several months that have not worked with WOFF and WOTR.

As a result anybody wanting to have the most recent AMD drivers to play other current games are having to make a choice between using older AMD drivers to play WOFF and WOTR or newer drivers to play newer games, but not both.


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#4446141 - 10/30/18 05:48 AM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: Panama Red]  
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Originally Posted by Panama Red
Redwolf:
How old are your AMD drivers ???

It has been the current AMD drivers from the past several months that have not worked with WOFF and WOTR.

As a result anybody wanting to have the most recent AMD drivers to play other current games are having to make a choice between using older AMD drivers to play WOFF and WOTR or newer drivers to play newer games, but not both.


18.5.1 -- never ever had any sort of problem whatsoever (except a Windows 10 update took away the ability to use sweetfx with it)...otherwise everything is fine and dandy. smile

#4446163 - 10/30/18 12:11 PM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: Shredward]  
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Shredward,

Re widescreen monitors. This is what I bought.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZZDYVQM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It wasn't cheap--$848.40, but I'd do it again in a second.

I had shelled out about as much for an Nvidia 1080ti, which runs fast. At the time, I wasn't up on things like gsync and freescync. So I had this expensive gsync card that was not working to its full potential. I was running at 1900 with 60fps. With the new monitor, same card, I'm running at 3400 and 120 fps. I could have gotten a non-curved screen that would take me even higher to true 4k, and 144 fps, but I've had a curved monitor for a few years and had gotten used to it.

I LOVE THIS MONITOR!!!! It's huge! When I fly, with TrackIR, it's amazing. Talk about immersive. I suppose a VR headset would be more immersive, but then I couldn't use the keyboard or check my email on my phone. There is an overclock function on the monitor that isn't really an overclock function. It's just a setting you use if you have a gsync monitor. It kicks up the FPS from 90 to 120.

I should add that some other games that are set up to use really wide screens also look super. I've started playing Total War: Rome II again, and the battles are spectacular.

It's also great for working with multiple screens open, which I often do when I work. You can have two 16" wide screens open at the same time. At that size, their not "windows," they're full screens. So that's great, too.

The only issue I had involved juice. I work from home and have everything on an uninterrupted power supply, because we get frequent short power outages here in Florida when it gets hot. My old APC unit couldn't handle the draw when the gsync ship kicked in on the monitor. I had to upgrade my APC unit. More money!

But the bottom line is that I consider it all money well spent. The monitor is amazing. WOFF is amazing "on the big screen." The other games that can use a widescreen are amazing. I know it wasn't cheap, but at least now I'm getting the full benefit from my 1080ti, which I wasn't before.

I am very happy with my 35" Predator. And, as I said, the combination of the curve and TrackIr is super!!!!

Nowi

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#4446168 - 10/30/18 12:36 PM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Redwolf:
You just confirmed what the other AMD users are saying, older drivers work, not newer drivers for WOFF & WOTR.


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#4446189 - 10/30/18 04:23 PM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: Panama Red]  
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Originally Posted by Panama Red
Redwolf:
You just confirmed what the other AMD users are saying, older drivers work, not newer drivers for WOFF & WOTR.


Confirming they work with older drivers (18.5.1) I guess, yes. Haven't had the need to update to 18.10 as all my games work well (newer'ish and the WOFF/WOTR) - guess I should be very wary of upgrading them. IDK, I thought I might have got lucky with my particular card architecture. Anyways, no point in updating to the very latest driver as there is no need to for me - though i just read a report of an RX 480 running 18.10.2 with WOFF just fine (so it could possibly be the 500+ series with the problems(?)).


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#4448408 - 11/13/18 04:53 AM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Looking to upgrade on the new AMD 590, surely the latest drivers are needed for it to work but if they do not allow WOFF to run it's a damned shame.
What exactly is the problem here?
Usually games run even if they aren't supported anymore by drivers.


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#4448422 - 11/13/18 07:39 AM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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I've been running WOFF UE on an AMD 560 with no problems. In a few days I'll let you know how it runs on my new 580.


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#4449245 - 11/17/18 10:40 PM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Thanks.
By now I consider a 1060 because the power consumption of the 590 cards is just beyond bad. Yea it beats the 1060 often(but not always) but fancy custom cards like the Saphire 590 Nitro+, that maximize what you can get out of a 590, suck 232 watt while the 1060 may be below 130. I'm just not sure I want my old crate(from 2012) to handle this nasty heater just for a few frames more compared to a 1060. The whole system would run a lot hotter, what is not good as the past year showed, and with that also a lot louder. And finally then looking at the overall FUBAR price levels that came with the mining boom every dime spend now seems a waste as the market is still in correction to that boom.
So a 1060, even if not kept for long, may be a good solution for now in the hope that more interesting stuff comes in 2019.


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#4449280 - 11/18/18 09:45 AM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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You know there are different versions on that 1060series: 3gb, 5gb and 6gb Vram. An High and low memory speed versions, while even a complete new 1060 seems to berelased as an answer to the RX590.
Now with the prices are dropped because of the RTX20X0 series and black friday is starting to begin, think the GTX1070 does come very close to your budget and will silence everbody on which Vcard is better.

Before buying any Vcard it is indeed wise to know if the PSU can handle your new card.
Check the website of your PSU brand and use the PSU calculator and to be sure, do also a calculation on a neutral site like a simple one from:
https://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell/tool/psucalc/index.html
or an more complex:
https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

#4449374 - 11/18/18 11:16 PM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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BTW can someone point out what exactly is the problem with AMD cards?
Are the games just not supported anymore by the drivers or is it a deeper problem?


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#4449413 - 11/19/18 07:15 AM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Some AMD graphics cards (e.g. Radeon HD series) with the latest drivers refuse to run WOFF (CFS3) properly. It shows black screen only.

#4449481 - 11/19/18 05:53 PM Re: Opinions needed for next graphics card. [Re: OvStachel]  
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And the same we see as one guy can not run a GTX1050ti while a other can run it without any problems. I know some drivers did have problems, same as some drivers from Nvidia.
I did run HD4890 and HD7970 from 2009 until 2016, played OFF3 until WoFF3, RoF, Clod, BoS and even CFS3, without any problems.

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