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#4446859 - 11/03/18 08:35 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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Raine, the idea of having your pilot and mine meet up in Canada is outstanding! I am thinking that my fellow will leave his home in Minnesota and travel up to Winnipeg to enlist, at which point he would be sent east and could meet up with your chap in Ottawa or Montreal or any likely spot where their paths would intersect on their way to the coast and to the ship that would be taking them across. As backstory, my lad will have already caught several rides in airships and aeroplanes at county fairs and such, which is where he got the itch to take to the clouds.

To the training in England, remember that OldHat put together an entire series of training flights based on a list I gave him of how it tended to be done back in the day. Also, for that series, I had modified Thetford and Catterick aerodromes to add the needed training targets, and both of those are already in Robert's Consolidated Aerodromes pack. Here are the links to OldHat's training programs:

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Oh yes, this is really starting to take shape. smile2

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#4446864 - 11/03/18 09:08 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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This is really coming together and I am quite excited! I can't wait to roll up my character.

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#4446872 - 11/03/18 10:00 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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Raine,
Yes, I have my ears on and yes I will start as an American flying for the RFC. Had been thinking of going to Canada and joining the Army Ambulance Service, volunteer as an observer, then start the DID in pilot training. Sound familiar? But, I can change it a bit. Makes no nevermind to me. All I know for sure is my pilot will be from the south as I don’t know how to be anyone else. Just keep in mind, you and Lou are light years ahead of me in the story telling department. That said, some of the most fun I had in the last DID was flying with you and also flying in the squadron Lou was commanding. My mom still has the walking stick carved from the Camel prop I died in. Did someone mention the word epic! Oh yes, this will be great.


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#4446933 - 11/04/18 03:12 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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Just for clarification: do we get to choose our starting unit, or is it decided by the powers that be?

I'm considering a few different options for my pilot.


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#4446941 - 11/04/18 05:42 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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I am totally happy to have headquarters (Raine) assign me as would happen in real life. In fact, I prefer it!!

#4446942 - 11/04/18 05:46 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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I prefer it as well, Scout. It will make it that much more interesting and historically apropos.

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#4446944 - 11/04/18 06:12 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Originally Posted by RAF_Louvert
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To the training in England, remember that OldHat put together an entire series of training flights based on a list I gave him of how it tended to be done back in the day. Also, for that series, I had modified Thetford and Catterick aerodromes to add the needed training targets, and both of those are already in Robert's Consolidated Aerodromes pack. Here are the links to OldHat's training programs:

Custom Mission Building Series

A Simplified Training Script

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I have most of British and German training mission files, if anyone feels they know how to insert them into their campaign I can expand them to include friendly AI controlled flights so air does not look so empty.

#4446972 - 11/05/18 12:04 AM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Hasse]  
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Originally Posted by Hasse
Just for clarification: do we get to choose our starting unit, or is it decided by the powers that be?

I'm considering a few different options for my pilot.


Hasse,

It seems most would like the "Dungeon Master" to play War Office / HQ of the Feldflugchef and assign pilots to a historically appropriate place for training and to their first operational squadrons. I'm happy to take into consideration your preferences based on a story line if you're already thinking of the path you'd like to follow. Please PM me about this so that I can do the appropriate research.

I'll publish more detailed campaign rules in late November...

#4446974 - 11/05/18 12:27 AM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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Lou, MFair:

So far it appears that our three characters are meeting in Canada. You can plan their back story as you wish, but by the time they meet, on 10 July 1915, they should be newly enrolled as civilian candidates for RFC flight training at the Curtiss School in Long Branch, Ontario. Long Branch is a community, at that time a bit of a cottage community, just west of Toronto (it's long since been absorbed by that city). In May 1915, Curtis Aeroplanes and Motors Company of Toronto opened Canada's first airfield and flying school there to train pilots for the RFC and RNAS. They start flying there in mid July and graduate together in early October. After a two-week leave they depart by train for the coast. The route takes them on a three-day trip to Montreal and along the south side of the St Lawrence to Mont-Joli, then south through the Matapedia Valley to Campbelltown to Moncton, New Brunswick. There they change trains to Saint John, NB, where the troopship SS Scandinavian awaits.

Background info here:
Curtiss School, Long Branch

They'll train in November on Farmans (long and short-horned versions) at Castle Bromwich and gain their commissions as second lieutenants, and by December they go to their appointments at the War Office, where they are sent for the final phase of training. We'll pick up their story in December as they begin on BE2cs at Netheravon.

#4446975 - 11/05/18 12:41 AM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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Raine,
Sounds good. As a heads up, I run no mods. If you and Lou go to a modded airfield, I will have to wing it or go to another school. Looking forward to this.


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#4446978 - 11/05/18 12:50 AM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: MFair]  
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Originally Posted by MFair
Raine,
Sounds good. As a heads up, I run no mods. If you and Lou go to a modded airfield, I will have to wing it or go to another school. Looking forward to this.


MFAIR

I'm curious why you do not run modded airfields,
Would you be willing to explain?


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#4446986 - 11/05/18 01:48 AM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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Robert, not at all Sir. I am a computer dummy. If WOFF has a hiccup, it is one less thing I have to take into account. It may be simple to a lot of folks but we are all ignorant in different ways. One day I may take the plunge but not at the present time. When I do, someone will have to hold my hand through the process.


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#4446989 - 11/05/18 03:24 AM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: MFair]  
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Originally Posted by MFair
Robert, not at all Sir. I am a computer dummy. If WOFF has a hiccup, it is one less thing I have to take into account. It may be simple to a lot of folks but we are all ignorant in different ways. One day I may take the plunge but not at the present time. When I do, someone will have to hold my hand through the process.


Well, when you are ready, we can dialogue on it. I believe you will find it quite simple once you start.

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#4447014 - 11/05/18 12:46 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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Originally Posted by Raine
Lou, MFair:

So far it appears that our three characters are meeting in Canada. You can plan their back story as you wish, but by the time they meet, on 10 July 1915, they should be newly enrolled as civilian candidates for RFC flight training at the Curtiss School in Long Branch, Ontario. Long Branch is a community, at that time a bit of a cottage community, just west of Toronto (it's long since been absorbed by that city). In May 1915, Curtis Aeroplanes and Motors Company of Toronto opened Canada's first airfield and flying school there to train pilots for the RFC and RNAS. They start flying there in mid July and graduate together in early October. After a two-week leave they depart by train for the coast. The route takes them on a three-day trip to Montreal and along the south side of the St Lawrence to Mont-Joli, then south through the Matapedia Valley to Campbelltown to Moncton, New Brunswick. There they change trains to Saint John, NB, where the troopship SS Scandinavian awaits.

Background info here:
Curtiss School, Long Branch

They'll train in November on Farmans (long and short-horned versions) at Castle Bromwich and gain their commissions as second lieutenants, and by December they go to their appointments at the War Office, where they are sent for the final phase of training. We'll pick up their story in December as they begin on BE2cs at Netheravon.



Great minds, Raine! I had been looking at incorporating the Curtiss School at Long Branch into my pilot's backstory, to the point of already having downloaded the pdf file you referenced. biggrin

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#4447215 - 11/06/18 02:23 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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So Raine, I went looking this morning because I thought your outline of our pilots' stops and travel route sounded familiar as did the name of the boat they will be crossing on. Am I correct in assuming you've referenced the Greenhous book, "A Rattle of Pebbles", as your inspiration? If so, good on you Sir. If not, an amazing coincidence. smile2

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#4447223 - 11/06/18 03:25 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Great minds. I'm using that source, plus rereading the sections on pilot training in Briscoe's 1918 "Captain Ball VC,", "Sagittarius Rising", and several other books, plus a treatise on British pilot training -- trying to get back up to date. I reconfirmed the rail route (it's still the route for the CN Ocean express). The Scandinavian was the ship in Rattle of Pebbles, so I check sources on the Allen Line and figured it could have been the right vessel a bit earlier in 1915.

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#4447241 - 11/06/18 04:49 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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Raine, (I'm sure you are already aware of this), our lads will be at Netheravon at the same time Billy Bishop is there waiting for 21 Squadron to move to France. More excellent fodder for our stories.

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#4447280 - 11/06/18 07:59 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Lou, good point. And I actually hadn't realized that yet. Watch out for falling RE7s, though. Actually, I just wanted to set a scene in the wonderful "Haunch of Venison" pub in Salisbury. Place dates from the 1300s and was a spot for RFC chaps on the spree. If memory serves, Sholto Douglas mentioned it in his memoirs.

#4447288 - 11/06/18 08:41 PM Re: Deep immersion DiD campaign [Re: Raine]  
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A wonderful old pub indeed Raine, and I spent several wonderful evenings enjoying its historic ambiance during the years I was stationed in England. May have to make mention of it myself in one of my stories. wink

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