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#4440062 - 09/21/18 07:14 AM Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost  
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Hi,

I can't get the hurricane to ever get +6 boost, it only reaches +4 even at 3000 rpm at ground level. (aside from using the WEP button).

I noticed the engine guidelines in the cockpit say to use +6 for both climb and take off, I don't know the facts on this sort of thing but a couple of forum people confirm this is right for the engine represented in game.

Maybe it is just a case of the indicated value not showing right, rather than the engine limits being too low.

(original discussion is in the Hurricane engine questions thread)

#4442811 - 10/08/18 10:46 PM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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Do we have any word on this? There is definitely no way to get up to burn-engine-out territory short of WEP...


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#4442937 - 10/09/18 08:51 AM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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It is what it is, use WEP to get to highest boost.


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#4443031 - 10/09/18 06:00 PM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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Well, tha's an interesting response, Pol. Any chance you could give us just a brief overview of what the limiting reagent is? Time, resources, engine limitation?

Thanks!


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#4443078 - 10/09/18 11:34 PM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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By making changes to the config for the hurricane, I managed to get the boost to settle on about +6 with 100% throttle (and leaned mixture at 9000 feet), then it jumps up with WEP to +8 as per normal,... but unfortunately this also increases the indicated HP in the on screen text (1500+ with WEP), and I think I was getting a relative increase in performance when I compared to some figures I found on the web so the HP really is being generated.

If we could just drag the HP back down but keep the +6 boost...

...when I tried changing other values in the config file they didnt affect the HP at all, I assume that is held somewhere else in game?

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#4443126 - 10/10/18 07:18 AM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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It is a little disappointing if we can't have an important dial show realistic values, I understand there are limits to what can be done with the ageing game engine perhaps, but boost seems such an definitive one. Without such things it moves WoTR away from 'immersive simulator' and towards 'enjoyable game' A little explanation on why it can't be addressed would be appreciated and help understand what the WoTR package is heading for and manage expectations of the future.

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ChiefWH

#4443129 - 10/10/18 08:31 AM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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I can make it so 100% throttle gives +6 on the dial but that would stay whilst 100% throttle is applied. We don't have more than 2 settings we can use, so 100% = x WEP = X+y

Adjusting the FM isn't going to do it as you will actually be giving extra HP


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#4443132 - 10/10/18 09:33 AM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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I would suggest then setting it so +6 is shown at 100%, then WEP has the bouncing +8 value. This would fix it sufficiently in my view so that you can actually achieve what the information plates (and specifications on the web) talk about.

That's all my issue was, the visual cue on the boost meter conflicted with the guidance.

If you can make the change it would be fantastic.

#4443137 - 10/10/18 11:39 AM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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Originally Posted by ChiefWH
I would suggest then setting it so +6 is shown at 100%, then WEP has the bouncing +8 value. This would fix it sufficiently in my view so that you can actually achieve what the information plates (and specifications on the web) talk about.

That's all my issue was, the visual cue on the boost meter conflicted with the guidance.

If you can make the change it would be fantastic.


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#4443138 - 10/10/18 11:55 AM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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OK will do that for the next patch smile


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#4443142 - 10/10/18 12:51 PM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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3lbs boost will be around 95% throttle, 6lbs at 100% and WEP giving full boost.

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#4443145 - 10/10/18 01:35 PM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: Polovski]  
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Might I also suggest changing "emergency_boost_type =3" to "emergency_boost_type =2" in the aircraft.cfg? This will not change the performance from the above, but the operation of the throttle will then match the way it worked on the Merlin. Engaging the automatic boost control cut-out changed what boost pressure was obtained at all throttle positions, the scale going from idle to +6 PSI without it engaged, and with the plug pulled, idle to +12 PSI (note that's what is going on inside, not what showed up on the gauge since its motion stopped at +8 PSI).

#4443169 - 10/10/18 03:00 PM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted by Polovski
3lbs boost will be around 95% throttle, 6lbs at 100% and WEP giving full boost.


That's great! smile

#4443177 - 10/10/18 03:55 PM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted by Polovski
3lbs boost will be around 95% throttle, 6lbs at 100% and WEP giving full boost.

Agree with Trooper! Wasn't this also the way it was IRL where you had to pull back on the throttle to keep from frying your engine?


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#4443209 - 10/10/18 08:33 PM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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Excellent!

#4443252 - 10/11/18 08:34 AM Re: Hurricane - not reaching +6 boost [Re: ChiefWH]  
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It's to do with how the dial has to be animated gecko so that won't work also using type 2 is limited total time (as that's methanol injection).

Last edited by Polovski; 10/11/18 08:34 AM.

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