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#4443013 - 10/09/18 04:31 PM Is DCS worth coming back to?  
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Hello gents (and ladies, if any),

I currently have a moderately-powered rig with an Intel® Core i3-8100 Processor (6M Cache, 3.60 GHz), with a GeForce 1060 (6GB RAM) and 16GB of RAM.

I haven't messed with DCS for a year or so, but have been tempted by the new F-18 and Persian Gulf map (and the forthcoming F-14...due out sometime before 2045).

Should I even bother? I've heard that the sim is all but unplayable unless you have 32GB of RAM. Can that possibly be true?

If so, does DCS have any plans on optimizing their code to run better on a regular ol' computer?

Also, I only have 110GB of free HD space. How much does DCS World and just the F-18 and Persian Gulf map take up?

Thanks in advance for your thoughtful responses guys, I appreciate your input.


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#4443014 - 10/09/18 04:36 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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you can give it a try - DCS is free to download

#4443025 - 10/09/18 05:47 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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The game isn't unplayable without 32GB of RAM, that's only for playing on high graphics in intensive multiplayer environments. The game is unplayable however if you don't have an SSD. Right now I wouldn't recommend diving in for the Hornet, as it's in very early access and missing large chunks of its systems while they are implemented step by step. Similarly, I don't recommend the Persian Gulf unless you are a singleplayer only kind of person and have an idea of how to make your own missions at this point. DCS is in a weird spot right now, with positive changes starting to come out, but having just come out of a very unstable period in game performance that hasn't been fully resolved. I'd recommend downloading it and only using the free modules for now just to see if it's your cup of tea right now.

#4443028 - 10/09/18 05:52 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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Originally Posted by JCathcart
Hello gents (and ladies, if any),

I currently have a moderately-powered rig with an Intel® Core i3-8100 Processor (6M Cache, 3.60 GHz), with a GeForce 1060 (6GB RAM) and 16GB of RAM.

I haven't messed with DCS for a year or so, but have been tempted by the new F-18 and Persian Gulf map (and the forthcoming F-14...due out sometime before 2045).

Should I even bother? I've heard that the sim is all but unplayable unless you have 32GB of RAM. Can that possibly be true?


[Un]fortunately, I decided to build my PC with 32 GB of RAM because I got a pretty good deal on it. I haven't tried to install on my other computer, but it's a laptop anyway. All I can really say on this is that I don't recall seeing DCS using over half of my RAM, but obviously take the word of someone with a 16GB machine over mine.

Your graphics card is newer mine (970) so assuming you don't get bogged down on RAM you should be able to run on medium-high settings depending on your resolution and preferences.

I've had good performance with 2.5 since launch, my biggest gripe would be a bit more slow down than I'd like on larger missions with lots of planes in the air, although I did this primarily in earlier patches. I haven't done a stress test on the current release, but it feels a little better.

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If so, does DCS have any plans on optimizing their code to run better on a regular ol' computer?

There has been some talk about optimization, most recently upgrading to Vulkan API, which should improve performance in general. I don't know if this will result in lowered recommended settings though. I don't really know much about the current status of this work.

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Also, I only have 110GB of free HD space. How much does DCS World and just the F-18 and Persian Gulf map take up?

I can't check on my machine right now, but from some other users, it sounds like over 25 GB:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=208789


https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=206340

I say over because the map was recently updated and is probably larger than it was when those posts were made. 110 should be enough for a map and a module. I believe you can also download them both before buying, you just won't be able to use them.

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#4443029 - 10/09/18 05:58 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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I'd go with Tom's suggestion...download the free version and see how it runs. Of course...performance on your machine is just one small part of the question of if it's worthy of purchase. I would hold off on buying the FA/18 until it's more fleshed out. (couple years?)


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#4443044 - 10/09/18 06:32 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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Install size for my game is 136GB. That includes Nevada and a bunch of other modules. 110GB might be enough for just the Hornet and PG map, but that is cutting it close.

Load times on PG are pretty high in the mission editor. Didn't use to be a problem with Nevada but I haven't tried that in months. Game runs good otherwise. Whoever can't run DCS on 16GB of RAM is likely running some bloatware in the background or is having issues with their PC. Once in game it runs okay for me with 16GB of RAM. I do have a better CPU and GPU than you though.

#4443074 - 10/09/18 11:25 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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Modules like the spitfire are a joy - but you will quickly find yourself frustrated by what could have been.

In fact that’s the whole game really. Falling just short of greatness.

#4443112 - 10/10/18 03:54 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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DCS runs great for me, including the Hornet. Specs in my sig (in other words, no you don't need 32GB of RAM).


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#4443121 - 10/10/18 06:08 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: malibu43]  
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Originally Posted by malibu43
DCS runs great for me, including the Hornet. Specs in my sig (in other words, no you don't need 32GB of RAM).


On what settings though...


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#4443214 - 10/10/18 08:52 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: mdwa]  
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Originally Posted by mdwa
Originally Posted by malibu43
DCS runs great for me, including the Hornet. Specs in my sig (in other words, no you don't need 32GB of RAM).


On what settings though...


Medium or high mostly. I don't have it all in front of me.

Whatever the settings, they are good enough to make the sim look amazing and run smoothly (or smooth enough for me).

I should add that I do have DCS installed on a SSD. Helped a lot with some stutters.

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#4443233 - 10/11/18 12:13 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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The base install of 2.5.3 plus only the Hornet module is 83 GB in space. I second the recommendation for a SSD, even better a M.2 Nvme drive. Having flown in IL2 1946, IL2 BOS , ROF and MS FS X, I would say that DCS 2.5.3 is coming along very nicely. The VR experience is now about the same as IL2 BOS (which means it is excellent) and the sim is compatible with the Oculus Rift, HTC Vive and Vive Pro, Samsung Odyssey and others headsets. (But you will need a good system to take advantage of VR)


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#4443494 - 10/12/18 10:21 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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MIG-29 is getting the PFM soon. I'll be loading it up once the update is live.

#4443549 - 10/13/18 09:53 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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#4446376 - 10/31/18 06:52 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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Another vote for SSD. If nothing else, DCS often has some VERY long load times, especially after an update is run, so an SSD is a huge help here. As other have said, bench mark using the free version first.

Also, as a hornet owner, I'd say it's a must have (even in it's current state) if you're a huge fan of the aircraft and naval aviation in general. There's still a lot of stuff coming, but enough to keep one busy (even just learning the finer points of carrier based aviation), and basic A2A and A2G operations. I'll simply say that I'm having fun with it, and feel my money is well spent.


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#4446560 - 11/02/18 01:32 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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I just upgraded from 8Gb of ram to 16Gb. Rest of specs core I5 2.8Ghz, GtX970, ssd.

Game moved from very unpleasant to play (eternal load times, hiccups during play) to playable with good graphics. Optimization is still vastly inferior to any other game/sim I play (46,BoX,BMS,arma3, elite, ..... ), and after 2/3 games I need to restart to avoid freezes. However loadtimes are now bearable, no hiccups during 1/2 flights and correct fps. I still have delays when pressing f2 for externals on loading the scenery (therés water where there should be mountains, until they finally load). Some 3D models are ugly (su34, B52), most are ranging from nice to gorgeous.

They deleted the ability to magnify distant planes so you feel totally blind in visual combat unless your radar has locked or you've been lucky enough to spot the aircraft at the right time (that is well in killing range from aim9s).

Right now mig29 is my ride, PFM still needs some work imo (autostability reacts somewhat strangely at times) but it's going the su25T way which was very enjoyable.

Solo campaign works so far, hope that the dynamic 3rd party engine will too.

To wrap it up, yes it's worth a revisit, but 16Gb ram and a SSD are necessary due to abysmal optimization.

#4446748 - 11/03/18 05:24 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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I look forward to upgrading to 16 Gbs ram and an SSD

I can play basic missions with little or no performance issues

Load times are a pain, I recall after one of the updates load times had significantly improved. Not so much after the next update smile

#4446760 - 11/03/18 11:33 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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I haven't run it in a while, couple of months - but

on a i7 4Ghz + 32 GB 1333 RAM
OS on a RAID SSD
DCS on a RAID HD
and a GTX1080 8GB

load times were relatively fast while loading the default map with a single fighter.

#4447329 - 11/07/18 02:39 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: bisher]  
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Originally Posted by bisher
I look forward to upgrading to 16 Gbs ram and an SSD

I can play basic missions with little or no performance issues

Load times are a pain, I recall after one of the updates load times had significantly improved. Not so much after the next update smile



My sentiments exactly. And the same upgrading needs. When it takes longer to load then get shot down, well...

#4447331 - 11/07/18 02:53 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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Yes Ed is PATHETIC. They let VEAO rip off customers and have never done a thing to shut down that bunch of (insert appropriate word here) ___ artists. There pre purchase policy is that they don't give refunds on pre purchases. Yet, they supposedly made an announcement in their VEAO thread(I never saw it, and still haven't) on the ED Forum that they would give a refund for a limited time( one week as I understand it). VEAO never e-mailed(they required e-mails for pre purchase) anyone advising them of the offer for a refund. Once I did see the whole debacle I asked for a refund and Pman said I had missed the offered period for the refund. I PMed him and explained my situation that I rarely visited the ED Forums anymore and that that is why I missed it. I also asked why had they not emailed me the offer. The only response I received was that their lawyers had advised them not to give anymore refunds. So here I am almost 4 years later still waiting on the pre purchased P40. No big deal being banned over there because nineline(or whatever name he is going by this week) is a total DICK HEAD anyway. So any chance I see to share this story online that I can, I will so that maybe no one else will be burned by VEAO. What goes around comes around. VEAO has charged me 40$, and they have not produced a product in almost 4 years. So the way I see it I was charged an advertising fee and I intend to give them their 40$ worth of Truthful Advertising.

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Ikes Blade_M sounds like you have had a bad experience

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Originally Posted by bisher
Ikes Blade_M sounds like you have had a bad experience


It is what it is. No hard feelings. I just want people to know to steer clear of VEAO in any way shape or form or on any platform as you may never get what you pay for. Of course the main excuses I have received in the last almost 4 years on the ED Forums is, well ED keeps changing DCS and, VEAO is comprised of producers who do this in their spare time so you should expect long development cycles. Really, common that is just stupid. Almost 4 years and nothing has been produced for the 40$ I spent with them. That speaks for itself. ED allowing this also speaks for itself. My only recourse is to re post the above statement about once a month on key DCS Forums so others can avoid what I have experienced. yep I have it saved on my Desk top as a a text file titled " SCAM" so I won't forget. I have a memory like an elephant. winkngrin

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#4447527 - 11/08/18 07:17 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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I have to agree , VEAO with its #%&*$# hawk show is something that makes any other my modules feel awesome even with bugs biggrin


Only module that was uber #%&*$# is VEAO HAWK , its uber messy pile of crap even today.



And VEAO still just gives #%&*$# exuces..



But DCS is getting better, progress is slow but its fun sim now.


And it would be least 20% better if ED just kick VEAO's ass out of door.



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#4447534 - 11/08/18 09:14 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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worth coming back to?
nope, give it a miss. Even the crappy hornet release has not convinced me to dust off the HOTAS warthog.
maybe when the tomcat comes out after alpha\beta I might consider plugging the stick\throttles back into the usb ports....

#4447535 - 11/08/18 09:15 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: Haukka81]  
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Originally Posted by Haukka81
I have to agree , VEAO with its #%&*$# hawk show is something that makes any other my modules feel awesome even with bugs biggrin


Only module that was uber #%&*$# is VEAO HAWK , its uber messy pile of crap even today.



And VEAO still just gives #%&*$# exuces..



But DCS is getting better, progress is slow but its fun sim now.


And it would be least 20% better if ED just kick VEAO's ass out of door.



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DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM VEAO. Remember that and you are good smile






I'm quite sure you have trolled my posts regarding the hawk over the years during and after my scathing review....I saved this post for future reference.

#4447536 - 11/08/18 09:16 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: bisher]  
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Originally Posted by bisher
I look forward to upgrading to 16 Gbs ram and an SSD

I can play basic missions with little or no performance issues

Load times are a pain, I recall after one of the updates load times had significantly improved. Not so much after the next update smile


^^ one of the very few actually productive posts you have made bisher....keep up the good work.

#4447583 - 11/08/18 03:27 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: Winfield]  
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What you mean ?
Originally Posted by Winfield
Originally Posted by Haukka81
I have to agree , VEAO with its #%&*$# hawk show is something that makes any other my modules feel awesome even with bugs biggrin


Only module that was uber #%&*$# is VEAO HAWK , its uber messy pile of crap even today.



And VEAO still just gives #%&*$# exuces..



But DCS is getting better, progress is slow but its fun sim now.


And it would be least 20% better if ED just kick VEAO's ass out of door.



SHORT GUIDE TO DCS :

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM VEAO. Remember that and you are good smile






I'm quite sure you have trolled my posts regarding the hawk over the years during and after my scathing review....I saved this post for future reference.


??

Im not sure what you mean.

When i first got hawk i was quite optimistic , but not anymore.

Other modules = hornet , viggen , and mirage are great. Get updates etc..

You sound like ICE2 ..


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Originally Posted by Winfield
Originally Posted by bisher
I look forward to upgrading to 16 Gbs ram and an SSD

I can play basic missions with little or no performance issues

Load times are a pain, I recall after one of the updates load times had significantly improved. Not so much after the next update smile


^^ one of the very few actually productive posts you have made bisher....keep up the good work.


lol Winfield you're a real sweetheart smile

I like to think my screenshot posts are a little more productive than the post you are referring to

#4447710 - 11/09/18 02:33 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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So, after upgrading my config for a 8086K oced at 5ghz all cores (together with a GTX1800, 16GB RAM and DCS on SSD), I thought it was time to revisit DCS in VR. It works fine, mostly, although I don't think it performs as well as Il2 BOS - in fact, my main test was to see whether I could finally fly on the Normandy map and the answer is still a big NO. While I get a smooth experience elsewhere, the Normandy map is a stutter and low fps mess. How is the new map of the Strait of Hornuz in terms of performance: does it perform more like the Georgia/Nevada maps or like Normandy? I don't fly non VR anymore, so anything that performs like the Normandy is useless to me.

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Strait of hornuz runs fine, only dubai is bit heavy but your system will be just fine.

Even my medicore system runs it great.


Its quite nice map.


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Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey
How is the new map of the Strait of Hornuz in terms of performance: does it perform more like the Georgia/Nevada maps or like Normandy? I don't fly non VR anymore, so anything that performs like the Normandy is useless to me.

Just for reference, SoH was renamed to the Persian Gulf map. It runs well for me, I'm currently making a campaign (slowly) on the map with a fair amount of units and I'm not having any issues with performance. The only exception being setting clouds to 10, which destroyed my FPS.

On the other hand I don't have any issues with Normandy, but I've only really used it for free flights given the state of the WWII AI.

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For those running Normandy fine, is that in VR though? I'm doing fine performance wise on monitor, but in VR it's a mess - I can't even run it fine forcing motion smoothing on because the fps seems to rarely hold at 45 and instead dip far below that. That's just in free flight, without AI (don't get me started on that...).

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I don't fly VR, so if the discrepancy between monitor and VR is very large with that map that could explain the difference in performance that I'm seeing.

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Yeah, that's it then - depending on how it's implemented VR fps can be less than half of monitor fps, and for DCS you need at least 45fps (ideally 90, but below that there are methods that approximate the missing frames) or it's a mess. It looks like I don't get that most of the time for Normandy while I'm fine in most case on the Georgia or Nevada map. I certainly won't risk purchasing the Persian gulf at this stage.

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Persian gulf runs even better than caucasus (less trees etc.. , lots of sand ) , only dubai is bit heavy to fps.


Least in my potato rig.


I fly only VR.


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Cool, good to know that it's not all new maps that are unplayable in VR - I guess until DCS has a better implementation of collisions for trees, desert is the way to go. I wish we had a ww2 North Africa map. Anyway, I'm not going to go back to DCS much yet - in the more distant future maybe, if we ever go towards theatres, career/campaigns that start making it an actual immersive combat sim - until then I think I'll keep flying circuits and one off missions with what I've got.

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I am just starting to enjoy DCS again with the release of the hornet. I have been flying Xplane 11, FSX, FSW, and Warthunder in sim mode since retiring all of the Janes Titles I used in the late 90's.
I only just revived my SimHQ login. I can say for myself I am very much enjoying DCS and that is on a computer i built in 2014.
i7 4770 @3.9Ghz, Asus Z93C , Asus GTX770, DDR3 16Gb Corsair vengence, samsung SSD 840_EVO_120G. dual AOC 27"144htz 1 ms

I also have DCS installed on a WD 1tb HDD. Im only getting 30-35fps @1920x1080 with minimal stutters. but I really enjoy it
So my advice to you is go for it.

Though be warned, it will encourage you to upgrade your hardware! well in my case anyhow..

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I have to admit. In the recent weeks since VEAO shut up shop, I downloaded DCS again and purchased Persian Gulf.
Razbams harrier is on sale and I thought Id give it a go. I've actually been enjoying both modules.
Harrier has a couple of sound bugs here and there but overall it has been quite entertaining.
Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.

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Originally Posted by Winfield

Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.


Is that happening?


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Originally Posted by Winfield

Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.


Is that happening?


On razbams website it is. No idea about the ED forums.

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Originally Posted by Chucky
Originally Posted by Winfield

Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.


Is that happening?


a map that included the southern half of Chile and the whole of Argentina as well as the Falklands and South Georgia perhaps ?
maybe extending north to RAF Ascension Island so that we could have a Vulcan bomber for Black Buck missions
and maybe a Sea King helicopter as well for the SAS Commando Raid that crashed in Chile.
that would be epic.

Originally Posted by Winfield
I have to admit. In the recent weeks since VEAO shut up shop, I downloaded DCS again and purchased Persian Gulf.
Razbams harrier is on sale and I thought Id give it a go. I've actually been enjoying both modules.
Harrier has a couple of sound bugs here and there but overall it has been quite entertaining.
Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.


Razbam like Carenado is based in Latin America, but I have no idea where.

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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
Originally Posted by Chucky
Originally Posted by Winfield

Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.


Is that happening?


a map that included the southern half of Chile and the whole of Argentina as well as the Falklands and South Georgia perhaps ?
maybe extending north to RAF Ascension Island so that we could have a Vulcan bomber for Black Buck missions
and maybe a Sea King helicopter as well for the SAS Commando Raid that crashed in Chile.
that would be epic.


I would love to see that kind of terrain implemented into DCS by a 3rd party.
If Nichole Birkett puts as much effort into modelling terrain as she does modelling in her instagram photos, we can be assured what ever Razbam release will be of high quality.:)

Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
Originally Posted by Winfield
I have to admit. In the recent weeks since VEAO shut up shop, I downloaded DCS again and purchased Persian Gulf.
Razbams harrier is on sale and I thought Id give it a go. I've actually been enjoying both modules.
Harrier has a couple of sound bugs here and there but overall it has been quite entertaining.
Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.


Razbam like Carenado is based in Latin America, but I have no idea where.


Neither do I, however so far the quality of the releases have been exceptional.
I have spent a few more hours in the harrier the last couple of days, yes it has it's short comings in terms of bugs but overall it really is a joy to fly.
Anyone else here enjoy it?

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Originally Posted by Winfield

Neither do I, however so far the quality of the releases have been exceptional.
I have spent a few more hours in the harrier the last couple of days, yes it has it's short comings in terms of bugs but overall it really is a joy to fly.
Anyone else here enjoy it?


oddly enough, I never bought anything from them either for FSX, P3D or DCS.

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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
Originally Posted by Winfield

Neither do I, however so far the quality of the releases have been exceptional.
I have spent a few more hours in the harrier the last couple of days, yes it has it's short comings in terms of bugs but overall it really is a joy to fly.
Anyone else here enjoy it?


oddly enough, I never bought anything from them either for FSX, P3D or DCS.


That's a fair enough assessment. FSX I tested the Intruder and Corsair "unofficially' of course.
X-plane and P3d are a different story, I haven't bought Razbam products for those.
I didn't mind the Intruder and corsair....I just didn't get the later updates to them

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I also have the Corsair from MILVIZ - awesome and a fantastic template as well.

they ported the P3D/FSX Metal2Mesh M2K to DCS and Razbam released it under its label , I don't know if RAZBAM had a hand in converting it, it was the only time I was able to make a skin at the same time for P3D and DCS, the P3D M2K is a great add on.

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Originally Posted by Winfield

If Nichole Birkett puts as much effort into modelling terrain as she does modelling in her instagram photos, we can be assured what ever Razbam release will be of high quality.:)

Link?

By the way, RAZBAM is from Uruguay.

Personally, i'm mostly waiting for the MiG's 19 and 23 from them. I skipped the Mirage because people say it is basically a clickable FC 3, with subsystems like hydraulics and for failures not modelled. And I doubt DCS can simulate VTOL aircraft accurately. Thankfully the MiG-19 is just around the corner, and I really hope it will be as excellent and fun as the MiG-15 smile

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Originally Posted by Vaderini
Originally Posted by Winfield

If Nichole Birkett puts as much effort into modelling terrain as she does modelling in her instagram photos, we can be assured what ever Razbam release will be of high quality.:)

Link?



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obviously the 'official testers' have spent too much time in the F-18 and not enough time testing the persian gulf map for errors.

Iran has F-5's, the straight of homuz was a main part of the persian gulf map.....one would think they would have got the countries right on what aircraft belonged to what nation.
In the editor, set Iran as redfor, then try and assign them an F-5, They may not have them around today but I am certain they had them back in the Iraq\Iran conflict.
Interesting though is you can assign the F-5 to Russia.....in the only default american livery of course.

Not enough of a reason to uninstall DCS....just stating the obvious of what should have been fixed before release.

Seriously, if ED are going to release a map and spent a few thousand hours modelling it, least they could do is add aircraft skins to countries of origin and assign them to be used in the ME




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Originally Posted by Winfield


Iran has F-5's, the straight of homuz was a main part of the persian gulf map.....one would think they would have got the countries right on what aircraft belonged to what nation.
In the editor, set Iran as redfor, then try and assign them an F-5, They may not have them around today but I am certain they had them back in the Iraq\Iran conflict.
Interesting though is you can assign the F-5 to Russia.....in the only default american livery of course.



You have to choose the F-5E-3. This one has all the iranian skins.


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Originally Posted by Dondy
Originally Posted by Winfield


Iran has F-5's, the straight of homuz was a main part of the persian gulf map.....one would think they would have got the countries right on what aircraft belonged to what nation.
In the editor, set Iran as redfor, then try and assign them an F-5, They may not have them around today but I am certain they had them back in the Iraq\Iran conflict.
Interesting though is you can assign the F-5 to Russia.....in the only default american livery of course.



You have to choose the F-5E-3. This one has all the iranian skins.


Cheers mate, I'll have another look.

Edit:

Righto....here is how it looks.

[Linked Image]

when placing the F5 it looks like this

[Linked Image]

I'm left clicking to place the unit and nothing is happening.

so I crank up the next F5.....

[Linked Image]

left click....it won't place in the editor on either aircraft.

The Red one in both pics is the Russian F5 that will place.

I do not want to fly it, I want it to be an AI controlled enemy aircraft. The problem is, the aircraft just won't place at any airport with Iran selected as the country.
Now before someone says it's because I have it set as CAP in the task, I have tried the task on 'nothing' and same problem.

Any ideas?

Because the Russian one works.

[Linked Image]

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don't have that map and I haven't tried any mission building in a good while, so I may be wrong , but you should be able to place any object anywhere in any place in a map regardless of which side it is.

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The map is still WIP. Start them in the air for now, it's what I had to do. Having said that, IIRC Bandar-e-Jask is also a bit of a short runway for F-5's.


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Hi Winfield,

I just tried it in the editor - works fine for me -

PG map
Iran selected on red side
Add new group, select Iran and F-5E3
Place
Select start on ramp, parking, runway etc
Change skins (several Iranian ones)


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Originally Posted by mdwa
Hi Winfield,

I just tried it in the editor - works fine for me -

PG map
Iran selected on red side
Add new group, select Iran and F-5E3
Place
Select start on ramp, parking, runway etc
Change skins (several Iranian ones)


Thanks mdwa, I restarted the game, created a new mission and it works.







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Originally Posted by Winfield
I have to admit. In the recent weeks since VEAO shut up shop, I downloaded DCS again and purchased Persian Gulf.
Razbams harrier is on sale and I thought Id give it a go. I've actually been enjoying both modules.
Harrier has a couple of sound bugs here and there but overall it has been quite entertaining.
Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.

Have you tried any of these training missions for the Harrier? I might try them tonight. I've had the HArrier since last sale but haven't had the time yet...

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zR6sSzWgYRCmsClKrfUTAg7nt145_-xD


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Originally Posted by mdwa
Originally Posted by Winfield
I have to admit. In the recent weeks since VEAO shut up shop, I downloaded DCS again and purchased Persian Gulf.
Razbams harrier is on sale and I thought Id give it a go. I've actually been enjoying both modules.
Harrier has a couple of sound bugs here and there but overall it has been quite entertaining.
Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.

Have you tried any of these training missions for the Harrier? I might try them tonight. I've had the HArrier since last sale but haven't had the time yet...

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zR6sSzWgYRCmsClKrfUTAg7nt145_-xD



I just downloaded them, haven't had a crack yet. Let me know how you go. I heard Baltic Dragon was making the official training missions for the harrier. I am not able to confirm that though.

Edit: looks like I heard correctly Harrier training
No idea if they are the same missions you posted mdwa

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Hi mate,

I just found them here: https://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=598

Not sure if the first post or second is the most up to date, but will try some of them tonight.

Tried a quick flight last night, loaded 1/2 fuel no stores and took off vertically somewhere in Nevada, did some bog laps and then attempted a vertical landing, landed ok but it probably didn't look too good...

I've mapped the nozzle to the grey "friction lever" axis which I normally use for zoom and remapped zoom to my china hat switch (I'm not on VR yet). Seen some others use the left throttle for nozzle, but the slider felt easier for me...

Which do you use?

I might get these printed up at the local 3D place - looks like a cool idea: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217091


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Originally Posted by mdwa
Hi mate,

I just found them here: https://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=598

Not sure if the first post or second is the most up to date, but will try some of them tonight.

Tried a quick flight last night, loaded 1/2 fuel no stores and took off vertically somewhere in Nevada, did some bog laps and then attempted a vertical landing, landed ok but it probably didn't look too good...

I've mapped the nozzle to the grey "friction lever" axis which I normally use for zoom and remapped zoom to my china hat switch (I'm not on VR yet). Seen some others use the left throttle for nozzle, but the slider felt easier for me...

Which do you use?

I might get these printed up at the local 3D place - looks like a cool idea: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217091



Same as you, I don't use VR, graphics in DCS are just not yet up to scratch on the vids that have been posted to youtube as recently as in the F-18. Probably still 2 years away before I invest in a headset.
I use the friction slider as well for the nozzle's. I find it a waste using the throttle levers as the nozzle setting.
The friction extension link you posted seems a worthy investment, I'm in central QLD, not many 3d printing places here, let me know how you get on if you get one made up from the link you posted.

Side note: VR has been out on DCS for some time, to see what I mean about latest youtube vids on in game, just look for that E.D Lemon bloke who was a former F-18 pilot but feels the need to satisfy the hoards on the difference between
'real' and 'make believe'

Look for my comment on one of E.D Lemons vids having a crack at the other side of the hills forum fanboi offering zero advice to 'Lemon'


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Well, I didn't do any flights, but spent the time to map all my controls in Target last night... I downloaded all the missions from https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=197787 and they seem ok from a quick look, also downloaded this Kneeboard docs: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3267915/

I've ordered the nozzle lever setup from a local 3d printer - it was AU$28 for all black or AU$33 for yellow lever and black brackets. So I got the yellow... Will post some pics and a report when I get it...

I looked up Lemon DCS on youtube and at first all I got was lemon tarts and something about Sasquatch... winkngrin but then I found it under C.W. Lemoine...

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Haha, I thought you meant 3D Modelling!


Originally Posted by Winfield
obviously the 'official testers' have spent too much time in the F-18 and not enough time testing the persian gulf map for errors.

Iran has F-5's, the straight of homuz was a main part of the persian gulf map.....one would think they would have got the countries right on what aircraft belonged to what nation.
In the editor, set Iran as redfor, then try and assign them an F-5, They may not have them around today but I am certain they had them back in the Iraq\Iran conflict.
Interesting though is you can assign the F-5 to Russia.....in the only default american livery of course.

Not enough of a reason to uninstall DCS....just stating the obvious of what should have been fixed before release.

Seriously, if ED are going to release a map and spent a few thousand hours modelling it, least they could do is add aircraft skins to countries of origin and assign them to be used in the ME

Oh, they did the same in Caucasus. It took me a while to figure out that the MiG-15 isn't bugged, but that ED doesn't recognise it as a USSR aircraft so no USSR liveries for the Soviet airforce but a North Korean livery instead!

These are just the lack of effort things we need to accept I suppose, with the blatant aircraft and map inaccuracies being the real problem.

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Being a two-seat aircraft, the HIND will be a particularly interesting aircraft to fly with a friend online.

DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt, DCS: de Havilland Mosquito FB Mk.VI, and DCS: Fw 190 A-8 Shrike



These three of these aircraft are well underway and we plan to release or more in 2019. With the addition of the new damage model, dynamic campaign, new World War II maps, and more units added to the World War II Assets Pack like the Ju-88, Bf 109G, C-47, A-20G, and others, DCS World War II will continue to grow and bring great new gameplay!

Other Aircraft





Other new aircraft in development for 2019 are the DCS: JF-17 by Deka Ironworks and the DCS: I-16 by OctopusG.

DCS: F/A-18C Hornet



Although not a new aircraft for 2019, the Hornet will certainly be a huge focus for us with the addition of the AGM-88 HARM, ATFLIR targeting pod, datalink and IFF systems, GPS- and INS-guided weapons, standoff weapons like Harpoon, SLAM, SLAM-ER, and Walleye, as well as continued work on the flight dynamics, navigation system, air-to-surface radar, Track While Scan and other air-to-air radar modes and sub-modes, and defensive systems.
The Hornet has been and will continue to be a massive and complex project.

Updating the Hangar, A-10C and Ka-50
Although we have a large set of new aircraft being worked on, it by no means that the older aircraft have been forgotten. Quite the contrary. Just like the recent update to the P-51D, Bf 109 K-4, Fw 190 D-9, and Spitfire LF Mk.IX, we will continue to update older products as their technology lags behind our current capabilities. The two biggest such projects being worked on for 2019 are overhauls of the cockpits and external models of the DCS: A-10C Warthog and DCS: Ka-50 Black Shark.


Some good things coming to DCS, looking forward to the updates to the A-10 and Ka-50, not so much the WW2 crap, the Mi-24 caught my attention though

#4456049 - 01/04/19 03:03 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: Winfield]  
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Originally Posted by Winfield


Some good things coming to DCS, looking forward to the updates to the A-10 and Ka-50, not so much the WW2 crap, the Mi-24 caught my attention though


any news on when the P-47 will be released ?

#4456061 - 01/04/19 05:07 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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This was in the Weekend News email:

'These three aircraft are well underway and we plan to release one or more in 2019. With the addition of the new damage model, dynamic campaign, new World War II maps, and more units added to the World War II Assets Pack like the Ju-88, Bf 109G, C-47, A-20G, and others, DCS World War II will continue to grow and bring great new gameplay!'

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In next week’s newsletter we’ll talk about the non-aircraft projects that we’ll be working on during 2019. ""

Thas what i wait, in facebook nineline tell that some dynamic campaing info will be there. (there was guy that asked and nineline tell him that in next week more info. )


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#4456082 - 01/04/19 08:26 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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I don't care one way or the other as I don't play it, but you guys should be happy that a dynamic campaign is coming in 2019 - isn't that what BMS has ?

I am not that sure anymore that I have the P-47, can't remember if I chose it or if it was part of my kickstart or the Mosquito or P-40, the Il-2 P-47D28 piqued my curiosity about the DCS lineup,

#4456093 - 01/04/19 10:09 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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Given ED's utter incompetence and the severe limits around the number of assets that can be used concurrently within the engine, I'm not expecting too much from a dynamic campaign......and certainly nothing that will be comparable to Falcon 4.0/BMS


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#4456106 - 01/04/19 11:38 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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It will probably be the current "Create Fast Mission" spread over several missions, ED charging 30 bucks for it and the sheeple screaming "throwing money at screen", "ThAnK yOu Ed, YoU gUyS aRe ThE BeSt!!!111!!1 LoLlolLOL" whilst ethnic cleansing any and all thread, post and user that mentions MBot's Dynamic Campaign Engine.

Thankfully, I've already downloaded all campaigns for it to my external HDD, together with a pdf print-out of all threads about it, updated to november 2018. I'll make them available on SimHQ when the purge begins smile

#4456133 - 01/05/19 02:47 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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Do they delete anything to do with Mbot's DCE now, or you mean when they put their own DC out to prevent competition?


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When they put their own DC out to prevent competition.

The same stuff happened in the past with other modules, so I doubt the modus operandi will change for the DC. If/When the DC launches, it will be paid, and it will be as if Mbot's work never existed smile

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So I was just looking into and reading about Mbot's DCE and saw this interesting snippet:

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Originally Posted by MBot
As usual with custom solutions, ED has changed some things, breaking my own implementation. With 2 or 3 wingmen, AI leader will no longer climb with out-of formation wingmen even if these wingmen have their own egress tasking. The wingmen will still climb according to their own tasking but the leader will egress at 1000 m, refusing to climb without his flight in formation. Weirdly, the AI leader will climb with only one wingman though with the same setup, but not 2 or 3. So with the usual flights of 4, this means that leaders will again hang low over the target area, getting shot down frequently.

Very confusing and extremely frustrating, considering one month ago everything was working great.


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DCS Middle east could be of interest....

Project Middle East
The “Middle East” project is a unique theater of operations, which includes missions and companies of military confrontation in the Middle East from the mid-1970s to the present.

This project allows users to use virtually the entire arsenal of military equipment and DCS aircraft and includes the reproduction of the events of one of the largest military conflicts of our time:

- The War of the Doomsday of 1973;

- Lebanon war of 1982;

- The release of Syria from the terrorists in 2017.

The project will present a map of 610 * 440 km in size, which includes almost all the states on the eastern coast of the Mediterranean Sea. It will present such large cities as Israeli Haifa and Shefaran, Lebanese Beirut and Tripoli, Turkish Adana and Gaziantep, Jordanian Irbit and Jerash, and of course the cities of the Syrian Arab Republic - Damascus, Homs, Hama, Lattakia, Iglib, Aleppo, Raqka and etc. In the project you can see the real monuments of ancient architecture - the colonnades and the amphitheater of Palmyra, the citadel of Allepo, the fortress of Krak de Chevalier, the mosque of Muhammad Al - Amin and others.

More than 20 airfields will be implemented on the map, including the international airports of Damascus and Beirut, the US airbase Incirlik. And of course, the base of the Russian VKS Hmeymim and the Navy base Tartus will be presented.

Recall that Syria is a state in the Middle East, bordering Lebanon and Israel in the southwest, with Jordan in the south, with Iraq in the east and with Turkey in the north. Washed by the Mediterranean Sea to the west. The modern statehood of Syria has a little more than 70 years, but civilization originated here as far back as the 4th millennium BC. the capital is Damascus, one of the oldest, constantly inhabited cities in the world. In addition, Damascus is also the oldest of all modern capitals in the world.


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Couple of images of the WIP on that website.

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#4456262 - 01/06/19 09:08 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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After the #%&*$# job they did on the Normandy map, i'm not holding my hopes up for this to be any good. 610*440 is the largest map to date though, and the region has a lot of gorges that should be great fun to fly through, so perhaps I'll buy it if the environment is done justice.

I'm glad that they found out what the geographical location of Syria is, and that " civilization originated here as far back as the 4th millennium BC.", even though by that time civilization had already spread to all corners of the globe....
The region was important in ancient times because it was the starting ground of the Copper Age, but calling it "origin of civlization" is just another proof that the people that work on these sims didn't pay attention in school and now try to Wikipedia/Google their way out of it.

I'm glad to see that Ugra Media is responsible for both the Normandy map and Il-2 maps though. There was a discussion on SimHQ a couple of years ago why both sims have these weird oversaturated colors to simulate western europe. Now we know why smile .

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Originally Posted by Vaderini
After the #%&*$# job they did on the Normandy map, i'm not holding my hopes up for this to be any good. 610*440 is the largest map to date though, and the region has a lot of gorges that should be great fun to fly through, so perhaps I'll buy it if the environment is done justice.

I'm glad that they found out what the geographical location of Syria is, and that " civilization originated here as far back as the 4th millennium BC.", even though by that time civilization had already spread to all corners of the globe....
The region was important in ancient times because it was the starting ground of the Copper Age, but calling it "origin of civlization" is just another proof that the people that work on these sims didn't pay attention in school and now try to Wikipedia/Google their way out of it.

I'm glad to see that Ugra Media is responsible for both the Normandy map and Il-2 maps though. There was a discussion on SimHQ a couple of years ago why both sims have these weird oversaturated colors to simulate western europe. Now we know why smile .


I have Normandy, I flew in it for about half an hour. You are right about the oversaturated colors, that was enough for me to shelve it as an option in the installer. WW2 just isn't my thing in DCS, Spent enough time in WW2 aircraft in the likes of like Il-2, CFS, SWOTL etc.
I would like to see DCS spend some time on the Combined arms module, especially if they created realistic ground pounder soldiers for MP. Somethine along the lines of BIS's VBS2 or even if it was of arma2 graphics engine instead of arma3.

eg; be a grunt\MP fireteam, be inserted by UH-1, move building to building, cover to cover, and the ability to climb to the top of a building, lase targets for Air support.

The graphics for AI grunts currently is pathetic, cheap 2d paper cut outs. Needs an overhaul. Still in the same state as FC1\FC2

All well and good to be building these terrains for air junkies, no love for people who wish to fight on the ground.



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This weeks newsletter is undoubtedly the best newsletter released so far. I'd give DCS another 12 months for those who walked away from the series before coming back to it. Some good changes ahead. Changes members here have been asking for years to see in DCS.

DC, servers, CA changes and upgrades to name a few that I have personally bashed to no end amongst other items on the list.

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Certainly it sounds great, but we are still waiting from stuff from the previous year previews

2018
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DCS World 2.5 by the end of January
- DCS: F/A-18C Hornet
- DCS: Strait of Hormuz Map
- DCS: F-14 Tomcat
- DCS: JF-17
- DCS: MiG-19
- DCS: Mi-24P Hind
- DCS: F-4E Phantom II
- DCS: Bo-105
- C-101CC variant for the DCS: C-101 module
- DCS: Yak-52
- DCS: I-16
- DCS: Christen Eagle II
- New aircraft carriers
- Other new maps and continued updates to our existing maps
- Several other unannounced projects

We will also be working on improvements to clouds [don't know if this happened] , explosions with improved proximity damage, virtual reality, spotting system, network play [don't know if this happened] , Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR), air-to-air missiles, and performance optimization with the inclusion of the Vulkan API. In parallel, we will continue to support and improve our existing modules. [well, kind of, sort of repairing bugs after multiple years of being there, with the MiG-15 repaired in december, but the F-86, UH-1, Mi-8, Spitfire and Yak-52 being as broken as ever, together with the FC3 tutorials and missions, and the NTTR missing from the NTTR map]
With the pending release of DCS World 2.5 which will unify our projects and several exiting new modules, we see 2018 as being a great year to be a DCS World fan!


2017
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-DCS: Normandy 1944 [made with 0 care for historical accuracy, together with its WWII assets]
-New aircraft damage model systems.
-Unpaved airfields. [don't know if this has been implemented]


2016
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-wrap up the L-39 Albatros with the addition of the L-39ZA version
-finish the Spitfire IX in mid-2016
-followed by the P-47D at the end of the year. [now perhaps/maybe scheduled for late 2019, full 3 years off the mark]
-We will also continue to fine-tune the P-51D, Fw 190 and Bf 109. [still hasn't been done, with the cooling being what it is]
-a new 3D external model for the MiG-29
-incorporation of the Professional Fight Models (PFM) to both the Su-33 and MiG-29. [Su-33 PFM released december 2017, MiG-29 PFM still WIP]
-DCS: NEVADA Test and Training Range map is being enhanced with the addition of:

Tonopah Air Force Base
New casino/hotels in the Las Vegas strip
A number of airfields and landing strips in the central (detailed) portion of the map
The National Training Center (NTC)
Improved grass and ground clutter
Plus a host of minor improvements
- DCS: Strait of Hormuz [launched in 2018]
-1944 Northern France [morphed into Normandy 1944, launched in 2017]
- We see 2016 as a big year for aircraft carrier operations as we plan to release both Nimitz-class aircraft carrier and Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier modules.


So yeah, I hate to be pessimistic here, but the 2019 roadmap will probably happen in 2021, with it being completely broken for years to come.

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any news about the HA-1112 ?

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Dunno, you should ask VEAO, they're developing it

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VEAO ? not DCS then.

I read ages ago about it and thought it an odd idea - but since there is a Bf109 and Merlin in DCS it seemed doable.

there are now many HA-1112 flying - should not have been difficult to find info about it.

#4458106 - 01/20/19 08:35 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Bit the bullet and tried out DCS after over a year hiatus and been flying BMS exclusively.
Bought NTTR and the F18 and have to admit it is a fun fighter to fly and NTTR looks great.
Not feature complete but what is there makes it a capable fighter for sure and if they keep the commitments it's going to be a blast.

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HA-1112? That still sounds like an odd idea, to me. But, hey, I'd rather put that up against my Spitfire than that #%&*$# 109K.


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