Not obscure because of the original event, but obscure because perhaps little known in the EAW world.

Back in 2001 Woolfman did a Pearl Harbour lay out. These screenshots taken today come from a 128C throw together of his original files:

FWIW, easy enough with 1.6 to build an historical plane set to go with that scenario.

All the major aircraft are in inventory as well as some lesser know ones plus there are a number of ship TMODs available to populate the harbor.

Moggy can you please zip your 1.28c setup and put it on the server?
I would like to have a look at it

Is that just the Pearl Harbour scenario, or the lot?

Just PH for now thanks

I will do that when I'm back home this evening.

Delivered.

Thanks- getting it now

@ Moggy

Does the scenario terrain include the other, outlying USAAF airfields? If so, I could see some scenarios with increased warning time to American forces making a significant difference, and that might make for a vastly more interesting scenario. The increased warning time could have occurred from many different origins, so a variable amount of early warning, depending on the source of the warning, is historically quite possible.

With user-variable warning time(s), the number and tactical formation/positions of USAAF aircraft could be varied. So could the ships. With adequate warning, at least the ships (and ground AA) would be better-manned, and with greatly increased warning, some/all of the ships could have sortied, and possibly be out of danger, or moving into position to attack the Japanese fleet. Certainly, more USAAF aircraft would have been in the air, and most likely in a position to intercept incoming Japanese aircraft. Even the B-17s might have flown-off to attack the Japanese fleet, which, at that moment in history, was their intended role.

As one might imagine, there have been written many such "Alternative History" scenarios, with various outcomes.

By the same token, the (historically) absent carriers might be in port, which were the real target of the Japanese in the first place. The possibility of a third strike, argued-for by Kenda, would be interesting. If the oil tank farm had been destroyed, the US might have had to send surviving naval forces back to continental US, thus affecting the outcome of the war incalculably. As in No Midway, No submarine campaign.

Aircraft AI would certainly favor the far more experienced Japanese pilots at that point in the war. AA effectiveness would need to be dialed-up, depending on amount of warning. At some point of prior warning, it would be maxxed-out. FWIW, US Regular infantry troops were trained in massed AA fire, and that massed fire should not be dismissed as ineffective at that place, and point in time, with enemy aircraft focusing on a immovable attack point.

This scenario offers up tremendous opportunities. To my (imperfect) knowledge, there has never been done a Pearl Harbor sim where the Americans were allowed better/more timely forewarning of the attack, and all that might have devolved from that.

If some sim developer wants to develop this sort of scenario, I humbly offer my help.

Submitted for your consideration

Hey Ray,

Too bad it doesn't have the actual air wings from the Akagi, Hiryu, Soryu and Kaga eh?

If only they were available to use...

Hey Mogggy, by some odd quirk of fate aren't those carriers and air wings show up at Midway?

If only those skins existed.

Too bad they won't be used if they did...

or, would they?

Nah, those old bland EAW skins will do just fine...

oh btw.....

Akagi (Red Castle)

Zero

Zero

Kate

Val



Hiryu (Flying Dragon)

Zero


Kate


Val




Kaga (Kaga Province, Ishikawa Prefecture {current name}

Zero


Kate


Val



Soryu (Green Dragon)

Zero


Kate


Val




http://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4095083/ijn-air-groups-midway-1942

Funnily enough, my old 2008 (or thereabouts) 128C setup of Woolfman's basic files did fill all the gaps with the aircraft etc from the Midway setup as it existed then, and could of course be updated with the more recent versions of all those planes, carrier models, battleships etc.

Jelly is having a look at it as we speak.

Woolfman's original 2001 scenario was quite simple, having the Japanese carrier bases, and the US airbases in and around Pearl.

See, one of the great things about 1.6 is that having all those skins from the various carriers groups is a snap to set up.

You simply add the skins to the plane inventory in separate folders and then using the file manager you select each of them for a slot and use the appropriate same flight model for each of them.

Hi Mike those skins look pretty good to me..but I'm sure someone will shine them up a bit

Indeed 160 does make it a lot easier to switch plane sets in and out.

Pearl would need the additional air groups for Shōkaku and Zuikaku of course. And the various land based US AAC and US Marine fighter squadrons.

A Pearl Harbor scenario would be outstanding !!

I have it running in 160, and I am looking to replace the Japanese carriers with the ones from SPAW

There are presently a bunch of Zero skins in inventory that could be used to get this project off the ground ( sorry ).

A6M1
A6M2
A6M3
A6M5 ( white )
A6M5 ( green )

All of the skins are different but they could all use the same FM.

You would need to replace the props on the A6M1 because they are two bladed but that is literally a 10 second job. Just take the P.3dz and Y.3dz and their texture files from any of the other A6M folders.

There's is also an A6M8 with a different skin but you'd have to take only the .tpc files because the 3dz files are a little different.

So that would give you 6 different Zero skins without too much effort.

There are two F4F's, an FM-1 and and FM-2 all of which fit the basic F4F 3dz files thus giving you four US fighters without too much effort. Just remember to use only the .tpc files from the FM-1 and 2 because the 3dz files are a bit different.

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The carriers are working



Zeros taking off from the Akagi

Jel

Multiplayer host only groundstart- two carriers in use











I was using the SPAW torpedo planeset