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#4437794 - 09/08/18 02:18 PM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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Bikes are fun, but between today's roads packed full of distracted "cagers" and the relatively poor buying power of most Millennials, I can see why riding is no longer as popular as it once was.

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#4437798 - 09/08/18 02:59 PM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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In the UK Crane Hunter,pretty much. I left the bike trade just over 4 years ago and all I saw was a steady decline. In the late 70's ( when I joined) and through the 80's it was booming but since then it's just tailed off. I'm glad I'm out of it.


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#4437803 - 09/08/18 03:28 PM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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On how people mount motorcycles - it's amazing that the tradition of mounting horses from the left translated and has been forgotten.

Hell, that's why every WWI aircraft was mounted from the left as well.


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#4437892 - 09/09/18 12:14 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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.… because they don't have a 'safe bubble'.


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#4437914 - 09/09/18 04:31 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Dart]  
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Originally Posted by Dart
On how people mount motorcycles - it's amazing that the tradition of mounting horses from the left translated and has been forgotten.

Hell, that's why every WWI aircraft was mounted from the left as well.


I'll take a stab at the question of why mounting horses from the left became customary - I would GUESS it had something do to with most people being right handed.

It is certainly not amazing that most people nowadays would have never ridden a horse though, let alone know anything about it. I've done it a few times, but never thought about why it's done from the left...

#4437915 - 09/09/18 04:52 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
.… because they don't have a 'safe bubble'.


Ya know, I kind of have the same sentiment around here about millennials, but cut the crap - they DO ride, and with way more balls than brains.

I am making criticism as an adult and admiration from my formerly testosterone loaded balls here. I did REALLY stupid things on bikes when I was young.

I think this younger generation is no more stupid with bikes - they just have way more powerful and capable bikes.

In fact, I wonder why this thread exists. I see far more young people on bikes these days...

EDIT: No attack on the OP or the joke, but I just wonder why the joke even exists....


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#4437920 - 09/09/18 06:37 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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Millennials don't ride motorcycles - they hit the gas straight into the rev limiter with no load, drive 60mph in second gear at 9000rpm, and do somewhat impressive stunts on the street which is just stupid.

I am presently working on a 1970 CB 350 and have a CT 90 waiting in the wings. I had long talk yesterday with a youth who just purchased a 150cc China scooter. He already wants a big bore kit installed because he likes the styling, but it is not "fast" enough. This thread made me think and I came up with 2 reasons why the youth are either afraid to ride or they ride like tools.

Compare the bikes and marketing of the 70's and 80's to today:

The 70's CB 350 was a mid sized bike, an excellent beginners bike, and is about the same physical size as a modern 150 scooter. The CB 350 has much better ergonomics for a beginner then a scooter. The modern mid size bike is 600 cc, has more power then a 70's factory super bike, and considered by the youth to be a beginners/girls bike.

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I think this younger generation is no more stupid with bikes - they just have way more powerful and capable bikes.

The marketing has also changed. In the 70's, "You meet the nicest people on a Honda". Today, the marketing is all about how many races your product has won or how much like a top of the line,old school Hardly it looks. I would be rich if I had a dollar for every time I saw a potential riders eyes roll back when I tell them to buy something like a used Ninja 500 or V-Star 650 for the first year.

I am a big fan of the UK's graduated motorcycle licensing.
Edit: You can not race a sub 10 second drag car without a special NHRA licence. The motorcycle licence you obtained with your borrowed Honda Elite 150 is the same one that lets you own and ride a ZX14. I do not have a problem with Darwin's law of selective evolution, but I do have a problem with expecting me to pay higher insurance cost because of idiots.


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#4437923 - 09/09/18 08:19 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Brit44 'Aldo']  
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Originally Posted by Brit44 'Aldo'


I am a big fan of the UK's graduated motorcycle licensing.
Edit: You can not race a sub 10 second drag car without a special NHRA licence. The motorcycle licence you obtained with your borrowed Honda Elite 150 is the same one that lets you own and ride a ZX14. I do not have a problem with Darwin's law of selective evolution, but I do have a problem with expecting me to pay higher insurance cost because of idiots.


Like a learner being able to put a third wheel on an FJ1200 or YZF-R1 and ride on the road legally? Not sure if that is still allowed tho, it was a loop hole in the learner laws for motorbikes for a long time and much abused.

Here they usually start out on a 50cc scooter which is called a bromfiets or brummer for short and is limited to 50km/h or 30mph, these usually have a variable drive gear system, my son at school in his engineering class made a new set of spacers on the lathe which allowed his brummer to reach 80km/h he also put on a tuned exhaust system and re-jetted the carburettor to compensate, like most kids of his age that got brummers he gave it up after about 18months when he got his car licence. Now at 22 he is starting to look at a motorbike as his older brother has one, a BMW R1200 GS Adventure the same with his uncle too.

PS. Aldo it was a borrowed CB125 I passed my test on as I had just seized the engine on my CD175 that was in 1975, I attempted my test 3 times and passed it first time, first time there was too much snow on the road and the examiner cancelled, second time there was a gale blowing and again the examiner cancelled it, third time was perfect weather and I sailed through it.


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#4437928 - 09/09/18 09:35 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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Alicatt,I remember those 3rd wheel things.It was called a Sidewinder if I remember correctly. I saw a few but they didn't seem very popular. I guess the buying power of a 17 year-old didn't stretch to a large capacity motorcycle, the sidecar and then the huge insurance costs. I did ride a few at the time,usually on 250's.

Over the years the UK has certainly seen its fair share of licensing changes. I took my test in 1977 on a CD175 and after that the sky was the limit. My first large capacity bike was a Honda CB 400/4.

When the law changed and you had to go 50cc at 16 then 125cc for 2 years at 17 that was when I noticed the start of the decline in sales. As a solus Honda dealer back then the CB250N and assorted other Honda 250's were our best sellers. What 17 year-old didn't want a 250cc? They all wanted the 'my bike does 100mph' bragging rights which wasn't achievable on any Honda 250 then but a Suzuki X7 was just capable of it,possibly the RD 250's too. No wonder the law was changed,they were dropping like flies.


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#4437933 - 09/09/18 10:54 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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There were quite a few 3rd wheels in Caithness usually on second hand 750/900/1000cc bikes, I had a few larger capacity bikes before I sat my test but they were used on the local airfield where you didn't need a licence or on an old dismantled railway line that also gave miles of running without a licence. My first bike after passing my test was a Suzi GT380, I've never had a 250, but my brother had a GT250 which I rode a few times.

The CB250 back then was not really a sports bike and quite slow compared with the 2-strokes from Suzuki, Kawasaki, and Yamaha.

I have tried the CB250 also the RD250s and 350s both the air cooled and in LC YPVS flavours, compared with the Suzukis they were a lot different and the Suzi never had that sharp powerband that the Yamahas had. When the CB400/4 came along it was a step up from the Suzukis and Yamahas.

My Suzuki GS650 Katana was about the same in performance as a Yam 350YPVS with the 650 edging it in top speed, but it was close. The one big advantage the 650Katana had was range, at better than 50mpg and a 5 gallon tank I could reach Glasgow on a tankful where the Yam would have to stop for fuel every 100miles or so.

Edit: even my FJR1300 has been modified, it was originally a model made to comply with French laws and only 80kW (100bhp) it is now 105kW (142bhp)

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#4438177 - 09/10/18 08:19 PM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Zamzow]  
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Originally Posted by Zamzow


In fact, I wonder why this thread exists. I see far more young people on bikes these days...

EDIT: No attack on the OP or the joke, but I just wonder why the joke even exists....



Many of us ride and not just street bikes... We're a growing and diverse demographic... I even have a buddy rebuilding a 74 Shovel.

The thread and by extension the joke exist to show how out of touch some people are - as simple as that.

#4438182 - 09/10/18 08:43 PM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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Has it been mentioned how touchy millennials are?


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#4438208 - 09/11/18 01:11 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: F4UDash4]  
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I know for a fact some of their girlfriends can be a bit touchy. partything

Must be from all the attention they get from carrying copies of Hustler around with them...autographed Linda Lovelace closeups...well

You get the idea.


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#4438244 - 09/11/18 06:36 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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Thank you Alicatt for a little more info about the French laws. I recently repaired a Canadian TDR250 that had rusted internally from sitting. It took me many hours to make an educated guess that a 0.50 over Weisco 240 piston could be used in the Canadian bike. And, thank you to the person who posted the Yamaha tech bulletin for the TZR 250 piston seizures that explains the difference between the two. Yamaha has discontinued the TDR pistons. As an American, I find it hard to trust the EU aftermarket parts are worth the shipping costs.

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#4438642 - 09/13/18 04:21 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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I rode in CA for a few years 2003-2005 (2003 GSXR 1000.. GREAT BIKE) it got stolen (go figure) I moved out of state for a time.... came back and got the bug again ~2009...bought a 2008 CBR 1000.... then found out that ITS ALL HIP HOP NOW... the sport bike culture in CA is all non-whites who stunt and basically run from the cops... the sport bike culture is F'ed up to say the least... I miss my rides with packs of normal guys on Ortega, Highway 2, Sunland.. 78 ect...


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#4438652 - 09/13/18 07:31 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Space_Ghost]  
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Many of us ride and not just street bikes... We're a growing and diverse demographic... I even have a buddy rebuilding a 74 Shovel.

The thread and by extension the joke exist to show how out of touch some people are - as simple as that.
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Shovels!!...I love Shovels man!!!!

I used to have an old '66 Shovel- 88 cub stroker, Delkron cases, worked heads, B grind cam with a S&S B series with the "thunderjet"? additional fuel circuit,

had the 3 inch belt primary with a dry clutch hanging out in the breeze. she started off in bowleg rigid, but my back got sore!(still is heheh), so I got a dropass frame,

with the round swingarm and juice drum.

I had so many adventures with that thing and spent thousands keeping her running, I sold her when I got married and got an evo, now I have a

2006 TC Softtail, not much done to it, just a 42mm Mikuni and a bit of lowering.. had it since 2007 and just kept the services up, runs like a damn clock.

I've got a bit sadder in my older years and don't ride in winter, but it's spring now here so nearly time to get out and ride again

seeyas

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#4438662 - 09/13/18 09:40 AM Re: Why Millennials don't ride motorcycles [Re: Bill_Grant]  
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Because in Dallas, you don't see millennials riding motorcycles. I ride around Dallas every day, so maybe it is different where you live.

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