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#4416671 - 04/17/18 12:19 PM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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#4416686 - 04/17/18 01:37 PM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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#4416778 - 04/18/18 01:28 AM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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#4421716 - 05/20/18 12:16 PM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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This thread got me interested in 43" 4K. I was wondering how to try 43" 4K.

Newegg had a "Shell Shocker" sale: LG 49" 4K, IPS, yadda, yadda Smart HDTV. 2017 model. $700 list, $480 normal price elsewhere (e.g. Amazon). My price $297 delivered.

Grabbed it and set it up in my Exercise Room for tryout (at least I can watch TV and movies on it while exercising smile ). Right now running on FX8350 CPU, RX550 GPU, 8GB DDR3. RX550 not powerful enough -- but, works much better than expected at true 4K.

Loaded one of my Steam RPG that supports 4K but does not have a lot of excess movement (name is "Bastord" -- had to misspell to get to print).

49" diagonal is not too big -- glad I went that size -- approximately 42" wide x 24" high image -- IPS gives good off angle and edge viewing. And, lots of settings for games, etc. to get the resolution, contrast, color just the way one wants it.

Using my normal 30" view distance. I've set the text size, etc. to look no larger than on my current gaming displays (100% in W10 settings) -- i.e. its like having 4 1920x1080 displays stacked in front of me.

First impression is very positive. But, I have not decided to switch over from my current 3 monitor setup. For example, I can see that, at 30" view distance, a curved 49" monitor would be best. This is just a test (and a new monitor for the Exercise Room).

Still working out some details, still need some answers. No doubt some SimHQ contributors have already worked all this out for themselves -- I'm playing catch up.


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#4421764 - 05/20/18 07:02 PM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Hi Allen,

Thanks for the report, and what a nice deal you got!

Isn't that very close, 30 inch distance for 49" diagonale?

I'm a bit worried about my eyes. On the other hand I sit just as close to my current screen so I suppose that makes no difference.

Currently it appears I'll be able to swing a new 4K PC Build and the LG screen this summer, so I'm firmly on that road. VR makes no sense for most of the games I play, so I'd rather spend that money for a large viewing area.

#4421824 - 05/21/18 02:11 AM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Agree. I've moved towards the idea that 49" is too large for 30" view distance. Straight on, its very good and sharp for keeping letters/words small but clear. The problem has to do with the edges of the monitor/HDTV looking very-slightly faded due to excess off axis view angle. A curved monitor might fix that. 49" is not garbage -- but, 49" is not perfect at 30". I'd like perfect smile

Based on my short time with 49", I calculate 43" would be the right thing geometrically in my particular office setup. I would keep two 24" monitors in portrait mode on each side. The 43" vertical height would would almost exactly match the height of the 24" monitors in portrait mode. I can wrap the 24" side monitors around slightly -- which leads to better contrast and view angle than a gigantic flat screen. However, I'm still not certain I wouldn't see off axis fading.

49 is still right for the Exercise Room. But the view distance is several feet away or more in the exercise room. By the way, 49" replaces the 27" we were using.

I've thought of an experiment I can do with the 49" to establish the best diagonal for my close viewing situation -- be it 43, 36, 32 or whatever. I'll perform it once I have the 49" mounted on the Exercise Room wall (has been on a table while I experimented with it as a gaming monitor).

Being verbose, I'll mention how the experiment turned out. But, it will only be my opinion using the LG I own and based on my eyes -- not necessarily generally applicable for other folks situations.


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#4422423 - 05/24/18 12:44 PM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Minor update:

Got it on the wall in the Exercise Room.

Took some hunting to get the PC desktop, game, TV image sized to the screen. Sizing using the GPU software and W10 did not apply. Needed to use the LG Smart OS on the TV.

Likewise with true High Dynamic Range (HDR) -- gives 10bit color/brightness range in place of 8bit. Turning it on in W10 did nothing until I found out how to unlock HDR within the LG OS -- had to Google to find it. One does need a GPU that supports HDR (RX550 does).

Couple attached pictures to show it in the Exercise Room setting. Nothing special. Mainly for watching movies and TV while exercising. Golf on the TV for now -- but, run off the PC on the table (FX8350, RX550).

Now that all is running as it should, I'll investigate what the best diagonal size would be for my gaming desktop.

Attached Files ExerciseRoomSetup.pngExerciseRoom.png

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#4422619 - 05/25/18 02:37 PM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Final report, FWIW:

Have all the main visual features of the LG 49" operating on Windows 10. Lots of adjustability.

Created full resolution image and used it as the desktop on the 49" monitor. Reduced resolution version of image attached.

Measured 30" from screen and just looked at the image (for reference, vision 20/20 at that distance). Sharpness the same from center to edge to edge, corner to corner of 49". All painted on screen sizes looked good (32" looked unnecessarily small, 27" looked tiny smile ). One does not have to increase the size of letters for the larger screen -- if its readable on a 27" screen at 30" view distance, its readable on the 49" screen. But, those letters look tiny in proportion to the screen.

Only problem with larger screen is that in a dark/unlit room, the black background is just slightly faded as one moves to the corners at 49". Fading is barely noticeable at 36". With lights on, its not noticeable at 49" -- screen reflections are the issue then. I value dark black levels in a monitor (3000:1 to 5000:1 native contrast). For folks who don't buy high native contrast monitors, this may not be as noticeable.

At 30" view distance, one has to move one's eyes around to see everything at 43". There may be a size that's too large for some folks taste because they don't want to be moving their head or eyes that much.

So, with my eyes, 36" or 43" could be an improvement over my "little" 32" -- IF my face is in the center of the screen. However, I'm in no hurry to change my actual desktop. Also, others may see things differently.

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#4423816 - 05/31/18 08:23 PM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Just wanted to post that this is one heck of a nice fitness room.

And thanks for the research biggrin

#4427988 - 06/27/18 09:15 PM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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how do you find out the latency of tvs ? i dont see them list the pages of the manufacture......my current fullhd ips panel is great for working and gaming anything that is not a shooter, the latency is too high. and i'm thinking of getting a 4k monitor

#4428045 - 06/28/18 10:33 AM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Originally Posted by Blade_RJ
how do you find out the latency of tvs ? i dont see them list the pages of the manufacture......my current fullhd ips panel is great for working and gaming anything that is not a shooter, the latency is too high. and i'm thinking of getting a 4k monitor


I agree with your concerns. If one wants 4K gaming perfection, then research into the hardware is needed.

In my experiments above, I used an RX550 GPU with 2GB memory. That's tiny. I did notice that when set to 4K, moderately fast on screen movement was not perfectly smooth. Don't know if its the insufficient GPU or the TV or both. I ass-u-me-d it was the GPU mostly. However, I don't really know. Now we just use the setup to watch TV and Video.

I write this because I don't want anyone to use my findings to actually buy anything. I did not "prove" my setup works for all gaming aspects. Rather, I merely checked that large (49") 4K monitor was not visually too large to consider for PC use at the correct viewing distance. Based on my experience, I personally think 4K is wasted on a 27" monitor (unless one literally has youthful 20/10 vision eyes that can see any flaw) -- but, of course, whatever pleases a person is up to them.


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#4434407 - 08/16/18 12:18 AM Re: Seriously tempted by a 43" 4K screen [Re: Allen]  
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Been using a 43" 4k Sceptre for a 3 years now. Works way better then my eye killing 32" 4k Dell that cost $2999 when bought, Sits in box in storage, 2 dead pixals.


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Hi all,

So, today everything came together: LG 43" 4K screen with an ASUS ROG 1080ti and a i7-8700K.

This is madness. I'll never be able to go back to smaller screens or less resolution. Words can't descripe how different gaming with all this detail is. I'm seeing things that I've never noticed before, in games I've played for years.

I guess for a 30" screen a 2K (1440p) resolution would be sufficient and then one could try to drive higher framerates. But at 60FPS and 4K with max detail in most games I'm a very, very happy camper.

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