#4434878 - 08/19/18 04:54 PM
Re: A more modern oldie
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MrJelly
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A test with 160 at a low sun angle They should have been long evening shadows: Taken in F9 just after take off and flying over the base we have he plane shadow is directly below it: Once again there were no building shadows.
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#4434995 - 08/20/18 10:25 AM
Re: A more modern oldie
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VonBeerhofen
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Does it look as if I have a problem with it's shadow? Do you think I would put it in if I DID have a problem with it, or that I deliberately put it in to annoy you? What is it to you what problems I may have? If any, then I'm well capable of solving them. It is you who starts with something about the shadow and says that the problem is still there, what problem. I don't have a problem with the shadows, they've always been the way they are but in this thread you seem to turn it into some sort of a problem. What the problem is you have remains vague up till today and ends with something about cooperation, after I supply a few answers to unrelated questions. Is this behaviour going to continue with every post I make?
Can't you seee there can not be cooperation when either party has no knowledge or understanding on what the other has done, and that there can only be a mutual standoff by letting eachother work in peace? I.e. you take what you can from EAWPRO and I don't take anything form v1.60 besides a few ideas.
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#4434997 - 08/20/18 10:59 AM
Re: A more modern oldie
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If you don't have a problem with that shadow then all well and good. However, in my view, the position of the shadow suggests that the sun is directly overhead. Part of it is on what appears to be a raised horizontal surface, with the rest of it hanging in mid-air A shadow with an "upside-down" tail-fin would be impossible, and to me that is the worst aspect. As I noted, the upside down tail-fin is still occurring in EAWPro. Your post got me looking at aircraft shadows in different incarnations of EAW. The all handle aircraft shadows badly, as the direction of the sun does not come into play, but the upside-down tailfin shadow issue only happens with the FXExe and EAWPro.
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#4434999 - 08/20/18 11:08 AM
Re: A more modern oldie
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VonBeerhofen
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Don't you know that a shadow becomes larger, the further it is from the ground and the closer it gets to the lightsource? Have you never noticed that when you place a shape directly in front of a lightsource the shadow it casts is upside down? Ofcourse it all depends on the position of the light and the attitude of the object relating to it. Bsides that anyone can replace the shadows with those available from Sandbagger's, so what the big deal?
Are you looking for a comparison between your shot and mine, and if so why? It's like comparing your pilotmap icons, which are mine, with my pilotmap icons which are also mine and it's silly. If you don't have a problem with the same sized flat shadows which produce no tail fin whatsoever or any perspective and you're happy with that when who am I to suggest that it needs to change?. Are we now getting into a debate where I should listen to what you want or is what I like more imprtant then what you want in my version of the game? If you want to wreck it then that's fine with me, I'll stick to what I have, my players like it and so do I. Why do you keep trying to get me to do things I don't want to do? Do you want me to adapt to the personal preferences you're discribing? Sorry but that is never going to happen. Will you be comparing reticules next, airfields or the sun? I'll gladly compare 3DZ models, but we've already been through that.
I've refrained from adding my hideous objects, just so it won't give people a reason to make such silly comparisons, it's probably fastest in it's raw form anyway and I realise that there are some who don't like what I've created, but does that mean I should stop giving meaning to my life and stop what I'm doing altogether just because of that?
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#4435005 - 08/20/18 12:32 PM
Re: A more modern oldie
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Other than to challenge your first statement by asking 1. What do you see if the light is directly above your finger (as it is in EAW and would have to be to create the shadow of the wings, fuselage and tail-plane)? 2. What do you see if you hold your hand vertically with the fingers up to get a shadow on the wall? It is not a mirror image. No further comment
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#4435008 - 08/20/18 12:47 PM
Re: A more modern oldie
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To clarify - Between the two tropics zones, Cancer and Capricorn, the sun is directly overhead twice per year. Outside the tropic zones, whether to the south or north, the Sun is never directly overhead. Maybe you should load SPAW or DAW, both of which fall within the 23.5 degree zones.
Heck, even paranoids have enemies.
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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