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#4433061 - 08/05/18 01:32 AM POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel  
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I am interested in hearing from those of you using TrackIR while flying the Bentley Camel.

My experience is that when you press the F12 key to centre TrackIR you find that you are looking over the sight tube and not through it. This is not the case with all the other Camels though.

I have developed a fix for this though so it is no longer a problem for me.
correction: my fix didn't work
Best Regards

Last edited by Robert_Wiggins; 08/05/18 08:57 PM.

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#4433141 - 08/05/18 06:10 PM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Just escalating this post since nobody has responded yet.


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#4433144 - 08/05/18 06:18 PM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I’ll have to check on the Clerget. Been a while since I had a Camel career.
But if the Bentley is different is it an easy fix? Some text changes?

#4433145 - 08/05/18 06:19 PM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Robert, I’m not @ my PC ATM. Will check 2night if that’s the case and repot back.


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#4433147 - 08/05/18 06:50 PM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Originally Posted by DukeIronHand
I’ll have to check on the Clerget. Been a while since I had a Camel career.
But if the Bentley is different is it an easy fix? Some text changes?


I don't know

Last edited by Robert_Wiggins; 08/05/18 08:58 PM.

(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
PSU: Ultra X3,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4433148 - 08/05/18 06:51 PM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Fullofit]  
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Originally Posted by Fullofit
Robert, I’m not @ my PC ATM. Will check 2night if that’s the case and repot back.

Tnx mate


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Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
PSU: Ultra X3,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4433164 - 08/05/18 08:03 PM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Originally Posted by DukeIronHand
I’ll have to check on the Clerget. Been a while since I had a Camel career.
But if the Bentley is different is it an easy fix? Some text changes?


Yes, easy peasy


I’m all about it then. Me and the Clerget Camel get along just fine.

#4433171 - 08/05/18 08:59 PM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Duke;

I thought I had a fix for the problem but it didn't pan out. I'm still looking...


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Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
PSU: Ultra X3,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4433182 - 08/05/18 09:49 PM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I think I know where you’re looking so it’s just a matter of time.
Unless, somehow, the “center” is different between the two models.

#4433189 - 08/05/18 11:10 PM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Robert, when I am flying a Bentley Camel with TrackIR the POV is too high, so before take off, I sit up very tall in my chair, then center with F12 and slouch back down and it is fine 😊 However, it causes problems if you use F12 in flight as the POV gets out of wack 😕 Hope this helps.

#4433207 - 08/06/18 01:02 AM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Sailor]  
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Originally Posted by Sailor
Robert, when I am flying a Bentley Camel with TrackIR the POV is too high, so before take off, I sit up very tall in my chair, then center with F12 and slouch back down and it is fine 😊 However, it causes problems if you use F12 in flight as the POV gets out of wack 😕 Hope this helps.



That's exactly the problem I am speaking about.
Glad to know it's not just me.


(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
PSU: Ultra X3,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4433208 - 08/06/18 01:17 AM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Robert, just took a Benltey for a spin in QC and what you are describing is correct. The default view looks like this:

[Linked Image]

But I find switching to gun sight view fixes the problem and the view is aligned. I find this view still better than SPAD's.

[Linked Image]

Attached Files Default.jpgGunsight.jpg

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The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
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#4433213 - 08/06/18 01:57 AM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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The view you get in gun sight view would be fine but when I switch to gunsight view I am automatically zoomed way in as default. Does that happen to you?


(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
PSU: Ultra X3,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4433219 - 08/06/18 02:09 AM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Robert,
Yes, the gun sight view is zoomed in when you switch to it. I just zoom out as far as it'll go and leave it there for the rest of the mission. Looks more or less same as the default cockpit view.


"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4433268 - 08/06/18 02:05 PM Re: POV question regarding sight picture in Bentley Camel [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Thanks folks for helping to clarify this issue.

Best Regards;


(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
PSU: Ultra X3,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4


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