Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 5 1 2 3 4 5
#4432782 - 08/03/18 04:54 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 7,993
Robert_Wiggins Offline
BWOC Survivor!...So Far!!
Robert_Wiggins  Offline
BWOC Survivor!...So Far!!
Hotshot

Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 7,993
Lindsay, Ontario, Canada
Yes it takes the proper fairing shape representing a Bentley. Try it and you will see for yourself. Download the skin I provided and rename as I indicated.

Last edited by Robert_Wiggins; 08/03/18 04:54 PM.

(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
PSU: Ultra X3,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4432783 - 08/03/18 04:55 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 7,993
Robert_Wiggins Offline
BWOC Survivor!...So Far!!
Robert_Wiggins  Offline
BWOC Survivor!...So Far!!
Hotshot

Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 7,993
Lindsay, Ontario, Canada
Aris;

I have to go out for a couple of hours but I will check the forum whenever I have internet.


(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
PSU: Ultra X3,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4432784 - 08/03/18 05:03 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,394
ArisFuser Offline
Member
ArisFuser  Offline
Member

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,394
Quote
Yes it takes the proper fairing shape representing a Bentley. Try it and you will see for yourself. Download the skin I provided and rename as I indicated.


Ok, this is odd, I did as you said and ...

[Linked Image]

The texture stretches and distorts to adapt to the new 3d model...

A correct, not renamed (Bentley specific) skin doesn´t distort or stretch that way in the engine fairing.

[Linked Image]



Attached Files Test2.jpgTest 3.jpg
Last edited by ArisFuser; 08/03/18 05:12 PM.
#4432785 - 08/03/18 05:07 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
DukeIronHand Offline
Hotshot
DukeIronHand  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
High over the Front
Looks like a pretty clear model/texture glitch to me on the “hump” (gun fairing/enclosure) where the Camel earns its name when using a Clerget skin on a Bentley model. From a distance it’s probably barely noticed but wonder about the cockpit view?

EDIT: Updated Aris pics - yes an issue. How’s it look from the cockpit?

Last edited by DukeIronHand; 08/03/18 05:11 PM.
#4432786 - 08/03/18 05:10 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 7,993
Robert_Wiggins Offline
BWOC Survivor!...So Far!!
Robert_Wiggins  Offline
BWOC Survivor!...So Far!!
Hotshot

Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 7,993
Lindsay, Ontario, Canada
Aris it looks as it should be IMHO.


(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
PSU: Ultra X3,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4432788 - 08/03/18 05:13 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
DukeIronHand Offline
Hotshot
DukeIronHand  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
High over the Front
Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Aris it looks as it should be IMHO.


Think so?
Looks pretty clear to me.

#4432790 - 08/03/18 05:16 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,394
ArisFuser Offline
Member
ArisFuser  Offline
Member

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,394
Well, then, I agree to disagree. wink

#4432795 - 08/03/18 05:59 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,394
ArisFuser Offline
Member
ArisFuser  Offline
Member

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,394
I opened Photoshop and copied and edited the Bentley Camel engine fairing texture and put it into the Clerget/standard "William Barker" texture so that it fit properly...Check how it looks now. (even the stock WOFF textures for the Bentley do not properly depict the correct shape of the rounded C-shaped cowling at the top)

[Linked Image]



If we want to have ace skins for Bentley Camel squadrons, there is no easy fix I am afraid.

Attached Files Test 4.jpg
Last edited by ArisFuser; 08/03/18 06:14 PM.
#4432800 - 08/03/18 06:31 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
DukeIronHand Offline
Hotshot
DukeIronHand  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
High over the Front
Except OBD but they are hip-deep in WOTR. Fixing what you found sounds like a big undertaking and, in hindsight, such an obvious oversight I sometimes wonder if we are missing something.

#4432825 - 08/03/18 08:22 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 841
Shredward Offline
Member
Shredward  Offline
Member

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 841
Lake Louise, AB Canada
the WOFF named Bentley skins are working as designed for you ?

Last edited by Shredward; 08/03/18 08:23 PM.

We will remember them.
#4432827 - 08/03/18 08:24 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 841
Shredward Offline
Member
Shredward  Offline
Member

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 841
Lake Louise, AB Canada
If that is the case, the fix is to build some new ace skins and upload them. We will have to see if Sandbagger is interested


We will remember them.
#4432840 - 08/03/18 09:02 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 7,993
Robert_Wiggins Offline
BWOC Survivor!...So Far!!
Robert_Wiggins  Offline
BWOC Survivor!...So Far!!
Hotshot

Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 7,993
Lindsay, Ontario, Canada
Aris, I stand corrected. You are correct and I went into the Camel skin for Barker and transferred the engine shroud from a Bentley skin to the Camel skin and it worked fine and looks just as you indicated it should.

That said, it would be possible to replicate all the camel skins as Bentley skins with a little art touch-up, but which of the stock skins should historically be updated is the big question.

In the long run we need to know just what squadrons/pilots should have Bentleys and what the skins should look like in order to undertake an effort to fill in the gap for the missing skins.

Last edited by Robert_Wiggins; 08/03/18 09:02 PM.

(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
PSU: Ultra X3,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4432843 - 08/03/18 09:38 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 841
Shredward Offline
Member
Shredward  Offline
Member

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 841
Lake Louise, AB Canada
We know exactly who flew what a/c and when. Hopefully Sandbagger will see this, and be interested in taking it on
Cheers
Shredwarf


We will remember them.
#4432853 - 08/03/18 10:16 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
DukeIronHand Offline
Hotshot
DukeIronHand  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
High over the Front
Shredwarf?
Who’s Shredwarf?

#4432866 - 08/03/18 11:06 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 841
Shredward Offline
Member
Shredward  Offline
Member

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 841
Lake Louise, AB Canada
A hamfisted and club fingered lurker of ill repute


We will remember them.
#4432867 - 08/03/18 11:07 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 841
Shredward Offline
Member
Shredward  Offline
Member

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 841
Lake Louise, AB Canada
or a tattered Klingon


We will remember them.
#4432888 - 08/04/18 12:52 AM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
DukeIronHand Offline
Hotshot
DukeIronHand  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
High over the Front
smile

#4432965 - 08/04/18 01:50 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: Shredward]  
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 7,993
Robert_Wiggins Offline
BWOC Survivor!...So Far!!
Robert_Wiggins  Offline
BWOC Survivor!...So Far!!
Hotshot

Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 7,993
Lindsay, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted by Shredward
We know exactly who flew what a/c and when. Hopefully Sandbagger will see this, and be interested in taking it on
Cheers
Shredwarf


Shredder, if I can be of any help I am willing to put some time into aiding in the process.


(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
PSU: Ultra X3,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4432967 - 08/04/18 02:10 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
DukeIronHand Offline
Hotshot
DukeIronHand  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,532
High over the Front
You da man Robert!

#4432976 - 08/04/18 03:06 PM Re: RNAS 1 Sopwith Camel (Bentley) Skins [Re: ArisFuser]  
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 7,060
Sandbagger Offline
Hotshot
Sandbagger  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 7,060
Coningsby, Lincs, UK
Hi all,
Currently there are 376 Camel skins, including a few 'Bentley' skins.
If ArisFuser has tweaked things, such that the correct shape texture file works on the 3D model of the aircraft, without the need for OBD to have to modify any 3D model, then I guess it can be done.
It really depends on what needs to be done and to how many skins to achieve the effect you are after.

If all skins need adjusting it would be a long job, but not as long as it took me to create all of the current 376 skins.

Maybe if interested parties submit what's needed to 'Shredward' then he can act as the single conduit to me to get the skins sorted and knowing Ted, they'll be 'additional' skins included.

If OBD can't assist with this initially in creating an update, I guess I could host the skins on the 'User Mods Pages' until they can. Maybe Rob could create a download package or packages using JSGME.

Standing by,

Mike


[Linked Image]

Alienware Aurora R5
Windows 10 64 bit
Intel i7-6700K 4.2Ghz
Two GTX 1080 Foundations in SLI (8 Gig each)
32 Gig DDR4 2133Mhz
1TB SSD boot drive - 1TB SATA storage drive
5.1 Surround Sound
34" Dell Ultra Sharp U3415W (3440x 2440)
CH Pro-Pedals, Stick and Throttle
TrackIR-5 Pro
Page 2 of 5 1 2 3 4 5

Moderated by  Polovski 

Quick Search
Recent Articles
Support SimHQ

If you shop on Amazon use this Amazon link to support SimHQ
.
Social


Recent Topics
Carnival Cruise Ship Fire....... Again
by F4UDash4. 03/26/24 05:58 PM
Baltimore Bridge Collapse
by F4UDash4. 03/26/24 05:51 PM
The Oldest WWII Veterans
by F4UDash4. 03/24/24 09:21 PM
They got fired after this.
by Wigean. 03/20/24 08:19 PM
Grown ups joke time
by NoFlyBoy. 03/18/24 10:34 PM
Anyone Heard from Nimits?
by F4UDash4. 03/18/24 10:01 PM
RIP Gemini/Apollo astronaut Tom Stafford
by semmern. 03/18/24 02:14 PM
10 years after 3/8/2014
by NoFlyBoy. 03/17/24 10:25 AM
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0