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#4430980 - 07/19/18 08:44 AM 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip - Finished.  
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I've wanted to build a Tiger for years so spur of the moment this week, after watching part of a fairly crappy doco on youtube that featured some Tigers, i bolted off down to the local model shop to see what they had. Funny story, i'm in the shop looking at the armour tossing up between Italeri and Tamiya kits and in waltzes this older guy who starts pulling American armour off the shelf and arranging them on the floor. He has that look of an old wizened modeller so i ask him.'Tamiya or Italeri kit for the Tiger...?' Twenty five minutes later after we have gone through interior or exterior kit/ scale/ how much detail do i want etc, what paints to get, what brushes, a few weathering tips and what is my online nick is so he can blow me up in War Thunder (Seriously!) i walk out telling the lady behind the counter i'll be back for the Tamiya kit. 3 hours later i walk back in and the lady goes..'Here he is..come over here lad' Daryl, my new modelling buddy and possible online executioner has put aside the Tiger for me, the paints i will need and a weathering kit. He has also paid for and left with the lady a little set of modelling pliers, Tamiya 3 brush kit and a sandpaper nail file kit for me! What a guy. His time, advice and even putting some of his money into an interest for someone he met for less than half an hour, blew me out:)

Anyway, so thanks Daryl, now onto my crappy build ....that i hope he never sees!

Tamiya Tiger 1/35, no interior (thank god) The kit comes with six different unit options meaning earlier or late production options like different mantlet, air cleaners, sprockets etc.I'm going to build the box art pic that belongs to the 503rd Heavy Panzer Battalion, mainly because it looks clean..and i don't want to worry about intricate ammo schemes smile

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I'm already into day two of this and realised i may never do another tank again, wheels man, so many wheels! No rush, but very repetitive. Spent an hour sanding down all the sprue leftover on the wheels and then worried about how i was going to paint the rubber part of each wheel without them looking like crud.

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Tamiya German Grey. Did a couple of the larger parts along with the wheels. Daryl told me to paint the tracks black but i was undecided on them so let them sit unpainted as yet.


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Nice to have a beautiful warm sunny day, the night before (above) was freezing and i was trying to enjoy the outside world but having no luck. Painted a few more hull pieces..in reality i was just putting off painting the rubber parts of the wheels. I am going to seperate the one piece skirts in this picture to to try and get a used look to them.

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As sloppy as this works looks so far, and it is sloppy, that was more than an hour of painting just the rubber part of the wheels. The ones sitting in the chassis i had mucked around the night before with some weathering and what not.

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I decided the easiest way, as i am just not good enough to finely paint without going over onto the rim, was to clean up my shoddy workmanship after i have weathered each wheel. So the two on the left are with just the rubber painted, two on the right with the weather/rust colour and the next pic is nearing completion. Cleaned up the rim edge with a blade where it meets the rubber. I still might muck around a bit more with them, not sure if am sold on how they look yet. I want to see if i can get a bit of a grimy look around the center/hub and the nuts and knock back that coppery/rust look around the middle.

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Tracks. Decided to dive into one with just the weathering dust mixed with water (i'm sure it's just Tamiya selling eye shadow) and then finished off the feet and pins of the track with gunmetal grey. Looks better than i thought it would turn out honestly.


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Tonight and tomorrow i will be, hopefully, finishing the wheels to my liking smile


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#4430988 - 07/19/18 10:22 AM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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Maybe went a bit to rusty and worn on the sprocket and idler. I like them and the effect, just looks like they have been sitting in a field for ten years is all.



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#4431005 - 07/19/18 02:32 PM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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Crazy idea maybe... As you went a bit excessive on weathering for an operational unit... How about a Diorama of a shot-down Tiger sitting in the field where the crew left it?

#4431126 - 07/20/18 11:54 AM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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Not a bad idea, but I would like my first Tiger to be operational Colonel biggrin Maybe in a couple of years when i get tired of cleaning the dust off it.


Wheels on, the pic looks fairly crap, i need to take them during the day and not under a #%&*$# yellow bulbed lamp.

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Top deck with a bit of light weathering so far, front panel and mg and mg mount added.

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Main turret pieces and the engine hatch.

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Deck resting on the chassis after letting the tub sit all day while the wheels set. Looks like it drove through a fire with my (once again) probable over weathering of the front panel. At least it is just the Tamiya soot compound so i can knock it back fairly easily.

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Good news is i did a trial fit of the tracks and they look pretty smart combined with the wheels:)



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#4431138 - 07/20/18 01:29 PM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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Really nice work. I think your weathering is great. The tracks look really nice. If you're concerned about the amount of rust an little dust / mud will knock the effect back a little, and blend it with the painted surfaces.

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#4431141 - 07/20/18 01:45 PM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: goon]  
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Geez Ajay...

For a guy who was trying to come across as a rank noob you are sure are catching on. wink

Great work so far,


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#4431234 - 07/21/18 05:44 AM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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Looking forward to this build. I remember saving my allowance to buy this kit in 76. I do not remember if the Flak 88 or the Tiger was my first Tamiya kit. I have been hooked on tanks since.


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#4431249 - 07/21/18 12:09 PM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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I'll take some tips on wheels and tracks please Aldo! I threw the tracks on today and they look crapola because of the lack of sag. I was going to try the hairdryer trick on them but decided i didn't want to wreck my first tank build so went with glue and shoving in card and cotton buds, I'll give them 24 hours to set and then see how long they stay. I need to touch up the track pins as well, the ones i painted on both tracks are the inside pins you never see. I need to grab a few more colours as well for weathering and rust.


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Nixer, trust me, i feel like the biggest noob modeler ever. Remember when you were a kid and it was fun? This feels sort of like work, but for some reason you thought it would be fun! Nah, it isn't really that bad. Put some music on, grab an iced coffee and clear the table outside for a chill couple of hours and it is quite enjoyable.

@ Goon, definitely need to knock back the colour i ended up with on the tracks and wheels. I think i played with them too much and it does now look more goldy coloured than anything. I'll give it another crack tomorrow smile












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#4431258 - 07/21/18 02:28 PM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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I dunno if you looked at any color pics but here are some good references
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/65020788349317211/

I think you got it right

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#4431277 - 07/21/18 03:28 PM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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I was going to say that if you ever make a mistake with painting road wheels, make sure it's the road wheel color over the black rubber.

It is not uncommon for a road wheel to be touched up with paint, and the rubber painted as well.


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#4431348 - 07/22/18 12:56 AM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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Thanks for the out Dart biggrin


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#4431351 - 07/22/18 02:12 AM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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#4431360 - 07/22/18 04:51 AM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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LOL Ajay,
I built that kit in 5th grade. You are doing a better job then I could do now ( winner Though I won the school clubs competition with the diorama in 6th grade). Please remember that I am an anal, analytical personality. I see flaws quickly and believe "looks good" is an insult.

For road wheels, Dart makes a good point. Also remember that the wheels are constantly spinning. Cyntrifical (spelling) force will always push the weathering outward and the contact surface of the wheels will be the cleanest.

The kit track is rubber. Rubber has a memory. Your only choice with that type of rubber is a chemical process that will shrink it in all axis, or wait out the years for gravity and age to overcome the elasticity. You could use a fine, clear thread to tie it into place, but can you find a fine enough thread? With as nice as your build looks, you may consider buying an individual track link kit (if they make one).

Seriously, I am impressed with your build. clapping

Edit, after reviewing your pics, you may be able to use some type of adhesive to hold the track where you are trying to position it.

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#4431370 - 07/22/18 11:06 AM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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You make good points Bri44. Also, any metal to metal contact should be bare metal.

When I was building whether airplanes or tanks I always built as 'factory fresh'.


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#4431371 - 07/22/18 11:28 AM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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I went with the glue option Brit. If it fails i will look at the heating of the tracks or drilling the inside of the tub to put some pins through that should be able to be hidden in the track cleats to hold it down. My fingers are not skilled enough and too fat to do the thread trick smile



Looks good so far, just got to see if the glue holds.

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The tracks have a lot of contact glue points as i glued the top of every wheel to them, just need to do a light coat of the rubber black over the glue that can be seen. Still need to take more of that 'weathering' of the wheels though. Grrrr.

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Not completely unhappy with how the mufflers and shields turned out, waiting for the shop to be open tomorrow so i can get a couple more paint colours to add some chipping. Have definitely over sooted the muffleer shields. Maybe my next model should be an old rusty, battle scarred and burnt out machine of some sort.

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Did a bit of work on the rear mount pre cleaners and piping to what looks like another air cleaner on the rear deck. Pretty interesting setup much like a lot of the trucks still use today, Western Stars etc. Also sanded down the 88 join and gave it a lick of paint, did a few fiddly bits like the U shackles and front spotlights/driving lights.


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#4431389 - 07/22/18 03:42 PM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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That's crazy good.

Before you de-weatherize, think again. That looks more like road and dirt grime than rust to me. If you're going to dirty up the base for the tank, simply use the same color for the ground - that middle road wheel doesn't look rusted to me; it looks like mud.


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#4431403 - 07/22/18 06:51 PM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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Yep, that middle road wheel looks the way they look when you get some grease on them that then gets dirty. A greasy muddy smear.


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#4431413 - 07/22/18 09:32 PM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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What they said...

How about some clumps of muddy/grassy crap hanging from the tracks?

Mud and tanks go together like Hollywood and phonies.

Do I see some chunks of rubber missing from a road wheel? If not, do it.

The exhausts are AWESOME.

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#4431582 - 07/24/18 05:13 AM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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Ajay,
If you are not trying for factory fresh, there are many stories that explain an odd road wheel. Later in the war, it was not uncommon to see steel wheels mixed with rubber wheels. Was it damaged in battle? Was the original worn and this was all the pool had available Mudpigs are only perfect when they are new.

As too over sooting the exhaust, the same story is true. You are dealing with war time diesel (Tommy cookers use gasoline). It could have been a cold week. The driver could be a replacement. etc.

Aircraft have a separate crew that maintains them each time they return from combat. Tanks are only repaired by the pool when the crew is out of action or they are not operational.

You build does not look good. "looks good" is an insult IMO. She looks like she is well on her way to be beautiful.

Edit: IMO The wheel closest to the drive sprocket looks exactly what I would expect from a weeping grease seal.

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#4431584 - 07/24/18 05:34 AM Re: 1/35 Tamiya Tiger, wip. [Re: Ajay]  
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an observation.
If you were displaying this with the maintenance crew that is available, you could replace the back 2 sets of wheels with factory fresh ones. It would look like they had replaced battle damaged wheels.


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