#4430012 - 07/12/18 02:30 PM
Windows 10 & EAW
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Pathfinder
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Hello chaps,
Apologies for sounding thick, but the last time I played this fair sim was in 2004... Does EAW work in Windows 10? If the answer is yes, could someone direct me to the relevant page and what I need.
Regards Pathfinder (Dallas)
It is far better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
Never have a battle of wits with an unarmed person, they will only drag you down to their level & beat you with stupidity
Incoming Fire Has The Right Of Way!
Friendly Fire, Isn't!
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#4430025 - 07/12/18 03:24 PM
Re: Windows 10 & EAW
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VonBeerhofen
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Hi Pathfinder, to run EAW on operating systems it wasn't designed for you'll need a NoOS patched version of the EAW.EXE. All current versions have this patch included and will work on a v1.1 or a v1.2. It's adviced to NOT install the game, due to annoying registry entries being created, but to copy the entire CD contents onto your harddrive and take it from there. The standalone patch is available here: http://www.thatoneplease.co/Tally-Ho/EAWKeyFiles/EAW1_26Epatch.zipThis version has very little changes to the game unlike the upgraded versions as EAWPRO and others, which are modified using the original Source Code, kindly permitted by Atari. EAWPRO is a set of files which works like the old addons and incorporates a changed theatre called ''The Battle over the Reich'' with frontlines extended into Germany. To install you extract the following .ZIP into the v1.1, v1.2 or v1.26 of your CD copied folder, where the EAW.EXE resides, and allow overwrites. The addon is available here: https://rabartel.home.xs4all.nlOptional you can restore the v1.2 Campaign files to make sure you can fly a full campaign, which isn't possible with the original targetset. The downgrade is available here: https://rabartel.home.xs4all.nl/FX1.2_Targets_FM.ZIPJust extract the .ZIP into (a copy of) your EAWPRO gamefolder, where the EAW.EXE resides and allow overwrites. BTW you can have multiple copies of EAW on your drive but the use of a registry cleaner may have an adverse effect as filepointers may be pointed to another install if the game finds any files missing. Other version's files are NOT compattible with EAWPRO in some cases. However you can reload/reinstall the original EAWPRO files to restore functionality. If you run into the dreaded 7217 error you'll need to install a wrapper workaround like nGlide or the 3D Windower program, which will allow you use Glide mode in EAW. Mark EAW's helpsite has all the information on how to go about that.. There are other versions available too, like v1.28E, v1.29, v1.60 which all have their own challenges, it's creators may contact you with their information. Good luck, good hunting, VonBeerhofen
Last edited by VonBeerhofen; 08/17/23 11:28 AM.
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#4430088 - 07/12/18 09:12 PM
Re: Windows 10 & EAW
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RIBob
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In order to grow the base of EAW users, presumably the ultimate goal of every EAW devotee, it is essential that a simple, uncomplicated, way be made for even ham-handed, ignorant users, like myself, to easily download a basic version of the game, suitable for Win 10.
Most modern computers are configured for that Operating System, and so it is unrealistic to expect prospective EAW users to retain a legacy computer on which to run older games. It is also unrealistic to expect them to purchase an EAW CD, as they are getting a little scarce, and a bit pricy nowadays.
A simple method of downloading and installing a good, free, version of EAW onto a Win 10 platform must be easily available. By this, I mean a single, one-button download link to a good version of the game that will play on Win 10 without anything other than simple choices made within the game interface (as opposed to modifying the EAW.INI) itself. Most prospective game players will shrink from modifying the "guts" of the game. Most folks here are used to doing so, but such people are the [I[exception[/I] to the rule.
By all means, such a download should include text directing interested users to this Forum where they can discover further enhancements to their EAW game.
Being ignorant of many things, EAW certainly not excepted, if there is such a thing currently available, please post a link to it here. I'll try it out, on my Win 10 laptop, and spread the good news far and wide.
Last edited by RIBob; 07/12/18 09:24 PM.
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#4430096 - 07/12/18 10:06 PM
Re: Windows 10 & EAW
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MarkEAW
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Unfortunately no. All versions of the game will require a Wrapper to get the most out of the game, even though 10 runs it with a few slows downs now. A Glide wrapper is desired, djVoodoo restores Horizon Fog, smooths out the far distant terrain and gives a boost in frames per second. nGlide does too, but not sure if it effects the terrain smoothness. A DirectX/DD wrapper fixes speed of transitioning menu screens (actauly the loading of the textures and graphics, since Win10 version 1803, it slowed down) and the frames per second. (I have not seen a DirectX wrapper yet restore fog, its really a video driver function). For overall I think Win10 is the easiest to run the game now, I prefer it now that I can run DXWND wrapper and now dgvoodoo (or other glide wrapper that VBH) introduced me to. All wrappers I tested are on the instal help doc in my site. EDIT: The game needs an updated direct of atleast 9.0c and modern hardware usage code in. I'd like to see more gpu use by EAW. I've updated my gtx560 1 gig mem to a gtx960 2 gig mem, and there was no difference in frames per second. (I didnt update for EAW, I just did it cause i got the card from a friend) EDIT2: Win10 Compatibility (8) (some info on 7 and Vista) https://eaw.neocities.org/eaw-known-bugs-feature-ideas.html#win10EDIT3: Old Pathfinder forum post...no reply. http://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4419275/windows-10#Post4419275
Last edited by MarkEAW; 07/13/18 11:30 PM.
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#4469314 - 04/07/19 07:13 AM
Re: Windows 10 & EAW
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MrJelly
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This is sadly quite typical. The original poster asks a question, others reply with answers, but there is no response from the original poster. We have no idea if any of the suggested solutions were tried, or if problems were encountered, so it appears to be a complete waste of time and effort
Fly EAW online at GameRanger: GameRanger SiteFaceBook Pages UAW 160 downloadsEAW ClubMark Twain: I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.I am now of an age at which I no longer need to suffer fools gladly
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#4469469 - 04/08/19 05:47 AM
Re: Windows 10 & EAW
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MarkEAW
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In order to grow the base of EAW users, presumably the ultimate goal of every EAW devotee, it is essential that a simple, uncomplicated, way be made for even ham-handed, ignorant users, like myself, to easily download a basic version of the game, suitable for Win 10.
Most modern computers are configured for that Operating System, and so it is unrealistic to expect prospective EAW users to retain a legacy computer on which to run older games. It is also unrealistic to expect them to purchase an EAW CD, as they are getting a little scarce, and a bit pricy nowadays.
A simple method of downloading and installing a good, free, version of EAW onto a Win 10 platform must be easily available. By this, I mean a single, one-button download link to a good version of the game that will play on Win 10 without anything other than simple choices made within the game interface (as opposed to modifying the EAW.INI) itself. Most prospective game players will shrink from modifying the "guts" of the game. Most folks here are used to doing so, but such people are the [I[exception[/I] to the rule.
By all means, such a download should include text directing interested users to this Forum where they can discover further enhancements to their EAW game.
Being ignorant of many things, EAW certainly not excepted, if there is such a thing currently available, please post a link to it here. I'll try it out, on my Win 10 laptop, and spread the good news far and wide. In response Directly to RIBobs post: We need a programmer to update the game to be really native to the Win10 environment and hardware. Since the source code is closed, its unlikely that will happen anytime soon. So there is no Win10 executable. However it does run on Win10 with issues, mainly slowdowns(Win10 has its own fix (s) it applies to the game exe.). Or with wrappers. Even with what you know better than I in Virtualization (A win9x OS running within supported Win10). Just about everything I know about win10 and the game I have the info on my Help Site. (except VM)
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#4470019 - 04/11/19 08:44 PM
Re: Windows 10 & EAW
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MarkEAW
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Menu Transitioning (7 to 10sec delay) slow down in Win10 (since April of last year, 2018) seems to not be a problem anymore. I tested 160 foundation quickly for something else and the menus switched normally / normal 2 sec delay. EDIT I don't know what changed in Win10's recent upgrades (past month) that may have fixed this. I personally had recently updated my Nvidia video drivers again. So who knows where the fix happen.... EDIT2 I'm trying to recall, but I think I updated DirectX 9 on my win10 computer more recently. With DX files that may have installed with another old WinXP game I recently added to my computer. (I think it was a form of the June2010 DX redistribute-able download from Microsoft) I'm uncertain, however. So if anyone finds there EAW game is still slow in transitioning menu screens then its maybe a DirectX/Direct Draw issue.....just putting that out there for you smarter tech minded people. EDIT3 It was a form of the Microsoft Download, but here is the official DX Redist (June 2010, Has all of the DX9.0X files like 9_1, 9_2 , 9_3 and more: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=8109If you have slow downs in the menu screens, try this download to see if it fixes it for you......perhaps it did for me. BTW a recent Performance Test: I get 38 FPS with 160 Foundation in the clear at ALT in D3D Mode!, (its not 60 but its something.) I use to get 28 to 30.
Last edited by MarkEAW; 04/14/19 09:27 PM. Reason: more details and added link.
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#4482343 - 07/11/19 02:02 AM
Re: Windows 10 & EAW
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Agathosdaimon
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i am trying the uaw160 version and it is unplayable now for me - i was playing the 1.26e version before and that was all fine and good and smooth so i may need to revert to that one instead - as for 160 the cockpit is flicking and zooming in and out all over the place and the plane doesnt respond to my attempts to steer it (i am just using keyboard atm) not that i could fly it at all with all teh crazy intense flickering and jittering and zooming in an out
- can anyone help me wiht how i might be able to fix this and play it - if i cant get any of the BOB games to work i am hoping i can at least have EAW working with the 160mod
also my mouse look just rubber bands me back to just looking front on - i seem stuck to this view direction
Last edited by Agathosdaimon; 07/11/19 02:08 AM.
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