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#4425937 - 06/13/18 03:10 PM A Decade Ago Today...  
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Hi gents! Hope you are all doing well.

I randomly stumbled across this upload from Pol and happened to notice the date: June 13, 2008.

Here is where we were a decade ago, with a preview of OFF: Between Heaven and Hell. My how far we've come. How has it been ten years already?

Take a look for yourselves and enjoy the nostalgia!


#4425949 - 06/13/18 03:53 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Thanks for posting Capt'n. Nice trip down nostalgia lane!


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#4426092 - 06/14/18 09:20 AM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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It has been a wild ride. Tender age of 22 when I scored it, think we've aged about 30 years since! winkngrin

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#4426154 - 06/14/18 03:21 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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I wonder if anyone has something from the first iteration ?


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#4426194 - 06/14/18 07:56 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Wow that looks terrible now - I am glad we have come a long way since then. Quick someone post a new video of WOFF UE..


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#4426204 - 06/14/18 09:00 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Yep. The sim has certainly come a long way and its *possible* it could still go further with things like the potential for a DX11 engine being installed someday in the future. In the meantime, things still look and fly so much smoother - which is more than I can say for my actual flying skills in this video.



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#4426222 - 06/15/18 01:05 AM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Wait a cotton pickin' minute! Why isn't this guy in WOFF?
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The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4426494 - 06/17/18 12:31 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Pol may look bad by today's standard, but where would we be now without it and all that came before it. Been here for a long time and grateful for everything OBD HAS DONE

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#4426505 - 06/17/18 02:12 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Ah the Bristol Scout, it was made by NOD but we couldn't really use it as it was never used at the front. Also it would need a lot of work/time o bring it into UE standard now even if we have it in QC only whatever.

True Mr_Dirt thanks


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#4426524 - 06/17/18 04:51 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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With all respect to OBD, but in jan/febr. 2009 when I did buy OFF3, I think it was overpriced for what you did get. Because also in 2009 the OFF3 looks were outdated.

#4426698 - 06/18/18 10:05 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted by Polovski
Wow that looks terrible now - I am glad we have come a long way since then. Quick someone post a new video of WOFF UE..


I remember being in awe of these images back then! I put so many hours in on OFF that I'm glad there's no stat counter - I'd be horrified if I really knew how many thousands of hours vanished into that title. I only wish I had that kind of time now for WOFF:UE. I still feel like a newbie even though I've had the game for a long while now.

I for one am glad you guys have been with us this long - even the "terrible" looking versions were a blast, Pol. I wish I could show you and the team just how much enjoyment we've derived from your tireless work.

Cheers mate!

#4427307 - 06/23/18 03:00 AM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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It's all relative when considering how 'terrible' these were in the past, right? I still remember the original Red Baron. I knew then it wasn't great but it was very fun because there wasn't anything else! I am certainly not being disrespectful to Pol and I really, really, really appreciate you computer gurus hanging with this for so long! S!

#4427371 - 06/23/18 04:26 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: dutch]  
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Originally Posted by dutch
With all respect to OBD, but in jan/febr. 2009 when I did buy OFF3, I think it was overpriced for what you did get. Because also in 2009 the OFF3 looks were outdated.


music rates 2005 (these were the musicians guild rates):
electronic music $300/minute
orchestra $800/minute
with choir $1200/minute

Off 3 incl phase 2: 10-15 minutes @1200/minute $20,000
Off 4: 138 minutes @ 1200/minute $165,600
WotR: 72 minutes (at present) @ 2400/minute (2018 prices) $172,800

Do you think you've even paid a representative price for that? never mind the graphics, programming and sheer effort of everyone else?
I don't mean to sound snotty, i'm just sayin'

It's a leading product in a highly competitive market, and was therefore offered at a competitive and fair price.

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#4427391 - 06/23/18 05:56 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Thank you, Matt. People often have no idea what the pricing pressures are for a gaming studio are these days. The days of programming a hit Atrari 2600 cartridge game in your bedroom over the weekend are long gone.


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#4428145 - 06/29/18 12:13 AM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: matmilne]  
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Originally Posted by matmilne
Originally Posted by dutch
With all respect to OBD, but in jan/febr. 2009 when I did buy OFF3, I think it was overpriced for what you did get. Because also in 2009 the OFF3 looks were outdated.


music rates 2005 (these were the musicians guild rates):
electronic music $300/minute
orchestra $800/minute
with choir $1200/minute

Off 3 incl phase 2: 10-15 minutes @1200/minute $20,000
Off 4: 138 minutes @ 1200/minute $165,600
WotR: 72 minutes (at present) @ 2400/minute (2018 prices) $172,800

Do you think you've even paid a representative price for that? never mind the graphics, programming and sheer effort of everyone else?
I don't mean to sound snotty, i'm just sayin'

It's a leading product in a highly competitive market, and was therefore offered at a competitive and fair price.



dizzy

Wow Mat, those are some insane numbers! I've always felt that OBD was putting their software out at a good price - I think one of the issues the gaming industry faces today is that the market accepts a $60 price tag as the norm, when in reality it's anything but. Hence the world of DLC, microtransactions, etc. For me, I'll happily pay a higher price for a full featured sim rather than sink $15 and $20 chunks for added content that's essentially required to fill out the game.

As an aside - your soundtrack to all of the OFF versions has been beyond superb. I wrote quite a lot of my dissertation with your score as my soundtrack!

#4428148 - 06/29/18 01:08 AM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Here's a video pairing some of Matt's original, incredibly immersive, BH&H soundtrack music to a WOFF UE campaign experience. Man I love this sim.




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#4428161 - 06/29/18 02:26 AM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Vids like that make you realize what a jewel we have
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#4428183 - 06/29/18 06:32 AM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: matmilne]  
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Originally Posted by matmilne
Originally Posted by dutch
With all respect to OBD, but in jan/febr. 2009 when I did buy OFF3, I think it was overpriced for what you did get. Because also in 2009 the OFF3 looks were outdated.


music rates 2005 (these were the musicians guild rates):
electronic music $300/minute
orchestra $800/minute
with choir $1200/minute

Off 3 incl phase 2: 10-15 minutes @1200/minute $20,000
Off 4: 138 minutes @ 1200/minute $165,600
WotR: 72 minutes (at present) @ 2400/minute (2018 prices) $172,800

Do you think you've even paid a representative price for that? never mind the graphics, programming and sheer effort of everyone else?
I don't mean to sound snotty, i'm just sayin'

It's a leading product in a highly competitive market, and was therefore offered at a competitive and fair price.
. I was only talking about the bad looks and not the music and yeah I just give my opinion that this was not that well made, not about the music. BTW,

To be clear, before I get the complete community on my tail; I’m only talking about OFF3, sorry to say and not WoFFUE because this game is every euro worth, so much have been changed in a huge positive pov. Think that was also the topic about.
I do hope hope I can still join this forum without being bashed away. :-)

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#4428215 - 06/29/18 01:11 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Dutch your opinions are always welcome. This forum generally has an open mind. We may not always agree with each other but we are a tolerant bunch...to a point!
Rightly so, we don't appreciate rants that disrespect others.


We always look forward to CONSTRUCTIVE criticism as it generally results in improvements

I for one, feel that on a positive note, your comments resulted in Matt laying some knowledge on us about music costs and that was enlightening.

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#4428217 - 06/29/18 01:18 PM Re: A Decade Ago Today... [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Dutch your opinions are always welcome.

We always look forward to CONSTRUCTIVE criticism as it generally results in improvements

I for one, feel that on a positive note, your comments resulted in Matt laying some knowledge on us about music costs and that was enlightening.

Cheers mate


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