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#4425866 - 06/13/18 02:47 AM Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT  
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Don`t know if this another phony video or not, but good lord, painful.


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#4425874 - 06/13/18 04:05 AM Re: Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT [Re: JimK]  
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That guy hitting the building wall is probably the most brutal racing accident I've seen in a while.


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#4425878 - 06/13/18 04:59 AM Re: Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT [Re: JimK]  
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As an ex armature road racer and a motorcycle mechanic, I rank the IoM racers right up there with fighter jocks. Doesn't the IoM still hold the record for the most killed?


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#4425889 - 06/13/18 07:23 AM Re: Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT [Re: JimK]  
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I moved over there with my family for a few years back in the late 90's to work, I tell ya, it's a bit sobering when you see the emergency chopper flying in and out of Noble’s Hospital non stop during TT fortnight.

I remember one older gent I worked with who was Manx born and bred and obviously loved his fast bikes, one journey from Douglas to Ramsey over the mountain stretch in the works van with him at the wheel had me so scared I really thought my time had come.

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#4425894 - 06/13/18 09:19 AM Re: Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT [Re: JimK]  
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Between 1907 and 2018 there have been 147 fatalities during official practices or races on the Snaefell Mountain Course, and 255 total fatalities (this number includes the riders killed during the Manx Grand Prix, and Clubman TT race series of the late 1940s/1950s).[7][46][47] In 2016, 5 riders died on the course during official practices or races, bringing the total number of fatalities to 252.[48][49][8][50] There were six fatalities among competitors in the 1970 Isle of Man TT, making it the deadliest year in the history of the event.[51][52]

Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Snaefell_Mountain_Course_fatalities


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4425896 - 06/13/18 09:32 AM Re: Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT [Re: JimK]  
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As long as the money keeps rolling in.

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Originally Posted by 3instein
...I remember one older gent I worked with who was Manx born and bred and obviously loved his fast bikes, one journey from Douglas to Ramsey over the mountain stretch in the works van with him at the wheel had me so scared I really thought my time had come.
Mick. smile

So it was you in the white Transit that overtook me on my Triumph! hahaha
I went over and rode around a few times on different bikes and found the locals would go past me like I was standing still. notworthy

#4426013 - 06/13/18 09:27 PM Re: Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT [Re: Master]  
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Originally Posted by Master
That guy hitting the building wall is probably the most brutal racing accident I've seen in a while.


Could not agree more, that impact and deflection.OMG. Bet he was Dead.


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#4426019 - 06/13/18 10:17 PM Re: Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT [Re: Chucky]  
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As long as the money keeps rolling in.


if i remember right the race organizers tried to make things safer a few years ago, and just about all the riders told em sod off and leave it be! dizzy


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#4426023 - 06/13/18 10:37 PM Re: Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT [Re: Meatsheild]  
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Originally Posted by Meatsheild
Originally Posted by Chucky
As long as the money keeps rolling in.


if i remember right the race organizers tried to make things safer a few years ago, and just about all the riders told em sod off and leave it be! dizzy


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#4426054 - 06/14/18 02:28 AM Re: Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT [Re: Brit44 'Aldo']  
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Originally Posted by Brit44 'Aldo'
As an ex armature road racer and a motorcycle mechanic, I rank the IoM racers right up there with fighter jocks. Doesn't the IoM still hold the record for the most killed?


Not to take anything away from fighter pilots but I'd rank them beyond that (although it is an apples and oranges comparison I guess). These guys are nearly constantly in a state where just being a few milliseconds off on timing means a near certain crash.

I doubt even a carrier landing involves such sensitive timing - really the only thing that might be THAT timing sensitive would be a decision to eject......

Let's put it another way - I'd gladly ride with a pilot for a carrier landing. NO WAY would I hop on the back of a bike at IoM!

#4426055 - 06/14/18 02:29 AM Re: Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT [Re: JimK]  
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Originally Posted by JimK
Originally Posted by Master
That guy hitting the building wall is probably the most brutal racing accident I've seen in a while.


Could not agree more, that impact and deflection.OMG. Bet he was Dead.



David Jefferies died in practice and it happened in 2003. Read the link Jim.


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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Originally Posted by JimK
Originally Posted by Meatsheild
Originally Posted by Chucky
As long as the money keeps rolling in.


if i remember right the race organizers tried to make things safer a few years ago, and just about all the riders told em sod off and leave it be! dizzy


Darwinism at its finest. Don`t need no warning labels here.



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#4426136 - 06/14/18 01:30 PM Re: Been a tough start for the isle of Man TT [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
We may criticize this cavalier attitude now with our 21st century sensibilities but it was this same cavalier attitude that compelled men to get into Spitfires and Hurricanes to fight off huge armadas of bombers and fighters in 1940. smile



Leslie Graham was a bomber pilot in WW2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Graham

Two women have also died, sidecar passengers.


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK


Two women have also died, sidecar passengers.


If I remember correctly the first woman died racing when I stayed there in 1997.

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Two women have also died, sidecar passengers.


If I remember correctly the first woman died racing when I stayed there in 1997.

Mick. smile


Should have said 3. Pamela Cannell on a 250 Yamaha in '97.

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There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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The title of the video is mis-leading...some of those crashes are from previous years.

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Thinking back,one of my customers was killed there in 1998.

The company I worked for had a long history of motorcycle racing,including a TT winner in the early 70's. This was before I joined but we got back into it again around 1980 although it was mainly club racing. We had great success with our Honda 350 twins. Great days.

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