#4424796 - 06/06/18 12:34 AM
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One of the better moments in the movie.
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#4424807 - 06/06/18 01:50 AM
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Saw it tonight, liked it a lot. Better than Last Jedi.
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#4424875 - 06/06/18 01:46 PM
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The movie has received mostly very favorable reviews from the critics and many of the dedicated fans have enjoyed it as well.
All of the controversy surrounding the movie is centered on the fact that mainstream audiences (ie the casual fans) did NOT go out to see this movie in droves like they did with the previous Disney SW movies. The causes have been debated endlessly as you can imagine.
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#4424883 - 06/06/18 02:43 PM
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The movie has received mostly very favorable reviews from the critics and many of the dedicated fans have enjoyed it as well.
All of the controversy surrounding the movie is centered on the fact that mainstream audiences (ie the casual fans) did NOT go out to see this movie in droves like they did with the previous Disney SW movies. The causes have been debated endlessly as you can imagine. I suspect lack of advertising. I've not seen one ad for this movie, I wasn't aware it was coming to theaters so soon until it actually opened.
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#4424884 - 06/06/18 02:46 PM
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I suspect lack of advertising. I've not seen one ad for this movie, I wasn't aware it was coming to theaters so soon until it actually opened.
Yup, that factor has been mentioned a lot. Other factors include releasing "Solo" just one week after "Deadpool 2" came out and while Avengers was still raking in a lot of business. Also, "Solo" came out only 5 months after "Last Jedi" so that probably hurt it as well. So in other words, the movie was released at a bad time when there was already a lot of market saturation and competition.
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#4424891 - 06/06/18 03:05 PM
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Even if it wasn't one of the greatest SW movies, it was still really enjoyable and worth watching for sure. Best yet are the potential storylines it opens up. I still like that it was a SW movie not so Force-centric. I always like it when they flesh out the universe outside of Jedi/Sith, or even Rebel/Empire. There is a huge scale to this universe that doesn't get represented enough considering the scale of things we do see. The potential directions they could go in that this movie started is pretty exciting. This movie struggled a bit to have an identity other than what we've known already for 35+ years, but if they continue it, there is a foundation for (more or less) fresh material. I know the end touched on something from the cartoons, but most of us don't watch Disney XD to know that stuff. I hope they stick with this for another couple of movies. Phantom Menace wasted a good character, they can fix that now.
I still want Ewan to get an Obi Wan movie too, set in the same general era, so maybe they can tie this all together even if Han and Obi Wan don't meet.
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#4445954 - 10/29/18 09:34 AM
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I watched it over the weekend, it and Rogue One were easily the best SW movies since Eps 4-6. I’m not sure how a certain someone is still alive, though. Hopefully it’ll be explained at some future point. I have a theory or 2, though.
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#4446026 - 10/29/18 04:20 PM
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One thing I’m glad about is that Lucas apparently allowed some stuff from the Star Wars Expanded Universe to become canon by being included in the film. For example, the Imperial Naval Academy located on Carida was from the Han Solo Trilogy published at least 20 years ago. Lando owning an asteroid was also from the EU, The Lando Calrissian Adventures (interesting books.)
Donald Glover absolutely NAILED Billy Dee Williams’ character. Alden did a good job, I think he’s well on his way to becoming the cocky rogue of ANH. TLJ totally turned me off to the majnline series, enough that I probably won’t waste my time on Ep 9, but I will watch another Solo movie if it’s made.
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#4446052 - 10/29/18 06:22 PM
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I've enjoyed every single of the new batch of movies.
Same here. To each their own of course but I just can't see at all why anyone would not like Rogue One. It had a dark tone and it had a very "adult" feel to it. It was great to see that applied to a franchise that often went way too far into tongue and cheek territory (ie the prequels).
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#4446062 - 10/29/18 06:54 PM
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Panzer the reason some of us don't like Rogue One is a complicated issue, but mainly because the story doesn't add up and join well with A New Hope.
My biggest issue first and foremost is the character development was crap. As I've said before, I didn't give a #%&*$# about the characters and the director and writers didn't hardly try. This, plus the tone of the movie was too light and campy(I didn't see the film as that dark, not even close to say Game of Thrones) and there was too #%&*$# much action for the sake of action.
So the plans were stolen? Great.
How does A New Hope start? Vader's ship is chasing Leia's, and instead of blasting it into billions of bits, they must board the ship.
Okay.
Why? To find out where the Rebel base was.
Interesting.
Weren't there #%&*$# of ships attacking that outpost and planet to steal the plans? Weren't there ample opportunities for the Empire to analyze hyperspace jump signatures to figure out where they had come from? I find the entire idea that the Empire couldn't figure this out from a full-scale assault preposterous.
There was no reason to spare Leia at that point, because the Empire should have already known, and thus she would have been incinerated as the star destroyer blew them to bits.
Rogue One violates canon and makes no #%&*$# sense and farts on our intelligence. Many of us always felt the operation to steal the plans was a clandestine operation conducted in the form of James Bond, pure stealth, few lives lost, nothing drastic done, absolutely done in silence as to minimize the chances of the Empire ever knowing. Thus... when Vader hunts down her ship, he takes her prisoner to torture her and find out all he could.
He had a REASON to do so.
Rogue One pisses all over this. It hands us a giant #%&*$# sandwich disguised as a powdered cherry-creme doughnut and says, "Here, enjoy."
Nope. Can't do that. Not when it shat all over canon and gave us no characters to care about who died for the sake of dying and big explosions... because.
Awful movie. I wish it never had been made.
And that's just lightly touching on the subject. I could go on for pages about what was wrong with the film.
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#4446073 - 10/29/18 07:59 PM
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I'd totally disagree with you Blastman.
Rogue One was the about the best Star Wars movie ever. I found the pace and
Hyperspace analysm of jumps have never been part of Star Wars canon. In no movies have there been a scene "we tracked them through Hyper space based on their jump vector". It's been due to installing trackers and similar devices. (Like the one installed on the Falcon to track them in A New Hope). Vader needed to interrorgate Leia to find out A) Where the base was, B) If the plans had been transmitted to other parties C) Why the plans was so important to get hold of in the first place.
Nothing in ANH invalidates Rogue One but instead shows why they didn't have more resources available than a handful of fighters at Yavin. Why would the Galactic Empire bother with half a dozen fighters and figther-bombers against thousands of Star Destroyers? Because they crippled them in Rogue One and wanted to strike the last crippling blow. The following movies clearly show why this was so important. +1 Rogue One is the best SW movie since maybe Return of the Jedi
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