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#4424378 - 06/03/18 07:44 PM Re: Have Between Heaven and Hell,Should I upgrade ? [Re: Bruce]  
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One more thing. Personally, I recommend that you change your BIOS setting BEFORE you install your new card. If you install the card first, you may have to clear the CMOS before you can even get your BIOS to post again to where you can change the setting.

#4424393 - 06/03/18 09:31 PM Re: Have Between Heaven and Hell,Should I upgrade ? [Re: Bruce]  
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Just the jump from OFF B&H to WOFF 1 was like getting a completely different game. Honestly the AI alone is worth the extra. It is so far above and beyond what B&H was capable of. It will make you work a hell of a lot harder for your victories.

#4424419 - 06/03/18 11:35 PM Re: Have Between Heaven and Hell,Should I upgrade ? [Re: Bruce]  
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I installed the 1050Ti about a week ago and have been going in to all my sims and doing updates. Just downloaded WOFF yesterday, and it seems to work although I must say startup for each mission takes forever, almost 4 minutes for one mission. Then agin I'm just relearning it so it'll take awhile.

#4424422 - 06/03/18 11:43 PM Re: Have Between Heaven and Hell,Should I upgrade ? [Re: Bruce]  
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Good to hear! Any problems with the video card? Four minutes does seem like a long time to load, but it does sometimes take awhile for some missions to load, particularly first missions after starting the sim. At least you had the patience to wait, which likely means your pilots will last longer than my pilots!

#4424443 - 06/04/18 06:45 AM Re: Have Between Heaven and Hell,Should I upgrade ? [Re: Bruce]  
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Load times can be quite long as there is quite a lot to load.

Each mission you fly in the campaign models an entire section of the front and, as you fly around the front, you will discover that you're not in a little player-centric fishbowl but in a very neat approximation of a living, dynamically changing world. Columns of vehicles are driving about, artillery duels will be occurring at the front, and squadrons of AI aircraft are all doing their own thing. A lot of simulations content themselves to script a few enemy planes for the player to "bump into" on each mission but WoFF is different. It puts the player into a living world and, largely lets fate decide what you will encounter. (Or you can edit the options to allow more deliberate encounters)

Depending on your workshop settings, the sector of the front you are stationed at and the time period you might be entering an environment with 100 aircraft operating in your sector. (Even more if you use mods, I've had missions that generated almost 300 aircraft during Bloody April and things get even more hectic towards the end of the war). You might not see them all since they are spread out over a large area but they are there and they do carry out their missions. You might fly for a week in relatively peaceful skies only to find yourself up to your ears in enemy planes because some historical offensive was launched that involved a number of enemy squadrons being deployed to your area.

I've been flying WoFF on and off for a couple of years now and I still feel as though I'm only scraping the surface in terms of observing what it is capable of creating.


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#4424449 - 06/04/18 08:09 AM Re: Have Between Heaven and Hell,Should I upgrade ? [Re: Bruce]  
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What kind of controller setup you got, Bruce?

#4424466 - 06/04/18 11:39 AM Re: Have Between Heaven and Hell,Should I upgrade ? [Re: Bruce]  
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Its this one Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Stick-Flight-PC, its OK but I'm not impressed, it can be a bit jerky sometimes.
, use to have a CH stick that was much better. Any other suggestions that aren't too expensive ?
Thats very interesting about what is going on in the background and everything on the ground. I did fly one mission on a recon flight. It was very strange as I was facing my gunner. I had no guns available to me, can you also man the gunners position as well ?

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#4424470 - 06/04/18 12:14 PM Re: Have Between Heaven and Hell,Should I upgrade ? [Re: Bruce]  
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There is a PDF you can download from the WOFF UE site that has all the commands on it, but to answer your question:
1. F10 cycles between gunner positions
2. F6 takes you back to the pilot
3. F11 takes you to the bombardier position

#4424532 - 06/04/18 04:17 PM Re: Have Between Heaven and Hell,Should I upgrade ? [Re: Bruce]  
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Bruce, I PM'd you so we can talk controllers..

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