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#4421990 - 05/21/18 08:09 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Wow great idea.unnatural ai autopilot is one of the worst things in this game.

#4422023 - 05/21/18 10:46 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Well, I suppose I can add it to my list to look at, I haven't dug into any of the autopilot code. I did notice it's a bit over-aggressive and rides on rails.
My current list includes the following now:

Fix the Air_Density problem **DONE**
Fix Hover-Hold **DONE**
Fix Altitude-hold **Halfway Done**
Add in auto-Bob-Up **Started**
Update all of the physics parameters for all of the helos **Started**

Go through all of the FM2 helos and fix various physics problems
Take a look at the auto-pilot to see if I can fix it

#4422027 - 05/21/18 11:36 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Great work!

Good to have a skilled dev helping with this game (I don't count myself in that group. My dev skills with C are not that great)

#4422045 - 05/22/18 01:53 AM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Thanks guys. Quick question, does the current Mi-24 Hind have a heads up display?

#4422077 - 05/22/18 09:51 AM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Originally Posted by Javelin
Thanks guys. Quick question, does the current Mi-24 Hind have a heads up display?


No, at least not one that shows flight information. I think there might be an aiming reticule, but haven't flown the Hind much.

I started adding one that could be switched on/off via the ini file as a "cheat", but I didn't complete it.

#4422093 - 05/22/18 12:14 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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That's right, only targeting mark appear when player switching on turret gun.
Different story is Clickable Cockpits mod - same layer also used for instruments manipulation.

#4422133 - 05/22/18 04:17 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Roger. I need to look into the Clickable Cockpits mod.

I've got the Altitude-Hold most of the way working, I stayed up way too late last night. Currently I have two problems I still need to fix. It has a tendancy over time to keep speeding up until it exceeds the maximum allowed velocity, and it's having trouble negotiating V-shaped valleys at the bottom transition. I think I know how I'm going to fix both, it just takes time and more testing. It's not going to be capable of handling all terrain extremes, you will have to keep an eye on it and pull it out of hitting vertical walls, diving into deep, steep sided narrow canyons, things like that. It's really pretty easy to fly with it on, all you have to do is steer and keep it away from vertical walls.

The Razorworks guys cheated and directly modified the position variables for the helo to make the autopilot work over ALL terrain features. That's why it behaves so strangely.

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#4422141 - 05/22/18 04:51 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Originally Posted by Javelin
OK, I re-read the manual and there is not an automated bob-up feature. Bob-up engages a display screen and lets your wingman know what you're doing. Do we want an automated bob-up function? I could set one up using a second press of the "O" key and use it to toggle up/down motion. You would use it in Hover mode.

Yessss!!!

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#4422145 - 05/22/18 05:03 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Originally Posted by Javelin
Well, I suppose I can add it to my list to look at, I haven't dug into any of the autopilot code. I did notice it's a bit over-aggressive and rides on rails.
My current list includes the following now:

Fix the Air_Density problem **DONE**
Fix Hover-Hold **DONE**
Fix Altitude-hold **Halfway Done**
Add in auto-Bob-Up **Started**
Update all of the physics parameters for all of the helos **Started**

Go through all of the FM2 helos and fix various physics problems
Take a look at the auto-pilot to see if I can fix it


That's fantastic cheers
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#4422296 - 05/23/18 07:19 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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OK guys, I have a functional question for you. I have the pop-up maneuver working. I'm calling it a pop-up maneuver because I had to use the R-SHFT-P key to activate it, the EECH event handler wouldn't let me reuse the O key. "P" for pop-up.

Option A: Right now it toggles. Press the key once and it pops you up 20 meters, press it again and it brings you back down.

Option B: We could change the way it functions and have R-SHFT-P pop you up in 20 meter increments, hit it twice to go up 40 meters.
And we would use the R-CTRL-P to bring you back down in 20 meter increments. Harder to coordinate with your fingers, but more flexibility in heights.

Which Option do you like? Vote now and vote often.


P.S. I have the Altitude-Hold function working too, I'm testing it and making adjustments to the settings. It works most of the time, but it has trouble with vertical walls. You're going to have to steer around them. I'll put a 1.16.2alpha executable up for you guys to test with in a day or two with all of my upgrades.

#4422301 - 05/23/18 07:39 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Javelin I think everyone use some kind mapping keyboard software, so it's not a problem wink do what you think is best.

"1.16.2alpha executable "
do you have any description of what is in the changes? I do not have access to the repository.I suspect that the cockpit lighting, something else?

#4422353 - 05/23/18 11:58 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Originally Posted by Javelin
OK guys, I have a functional question for you. I have the pop-up maneuver working. I'm calling it a pop-up maneuver because I had to use the R-SHFT-P key to activate it, the EECH event handler wouldn't let me reuse the O key. "P" for pop-up.

Option A: Right now it toggles. Press the key once and it pops you up 20 meters, press it again and it brings you back down.

Option B: We could change the way it functions and have R-SHFT-P pop you up in 20 meter increments, hit it twice to go up 40 meters.
And we would use the R-CTRL-P to bring you back down in 20 meter increments. Harder to coordinate with your fingers, but more flexibility in heights.

Which Option do you like? Vote now and vote often.


P.S. I have the Altitude-Hold function working too, I'm testing it and making adjustments to the settings. It works most of the time, but it has trouble with vertical walls. You're going to have to steer around them. I'll put a 1.16.2alpha executable up for you guys to test with in a day or two with all of my upgrades.


Option B

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#4422405 - 05/24/18 11:12 AM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Originally Posted by Javelin
OK guys, I have a functional question for you. I have the pop-up maneuver working. I'm calling it a pop-up maneuver because I had to use the R-SHFT-P key to activate it, the EECH event handler wouldn't let me reuse the O key. "P" for pop-up.

Option A: Right now it toggles. Press the key once and it pops you up 20 meters, press it again and it brings you back down.

Option B: We could change the way it functions and have R-SHFT-P pop you up in 20 meter increments, hit it twice to go up 40 meters.
And we would use the R-CTRL-P to bring you back down in 20 meter increments. Harder to coordinate with your fingers, but more flexibility in heights.

Which Option do you like? Vote now and vote often.


P.S. I have the Altitude-Hold function working too, I'm testing it and making adjustments to the settings. It works most of the time, but it has trouble with vertical walls. You're going to have to steer around them. I'll put a 1.16.2alpha executable up for you guys to test with in a day or two with all of my upgrades.


This would be my preference.

Cheers!

#4422408 - 05/24/18 11:29 AM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Option B for me.

Some additional thoughts though, would it be possible to have a key that makes the pop-up enabled, then use some key combination of Arrow Up / Arrow Down to change the height?

Is 20 metres increments set, and could it be too much? I'm thinking of things like hiding behind a line of trees, would popping up 20 metres leave you too exposed? I've not used pop-up too much, so don't have experience to think about.

#4422429 - 05/24/18 02:10 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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#4422436 - 05/24/18 03:07 PM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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Right now I have a combination of both A & B working. I'm using A to pop up and down, and for B I modded the Alt-J and Alt-K adjustments to Alt-Hover to work for ALL hover modes, and increased it's adjustment to 10 ft or 10 meters. The 1 ft thing wasn't working for me. As it stands now, you can get either 10 m or 20 m hops out of it, depending upon which keys you press.

Generally, I go into Shft-H Hover mode, use Alt-J or Alt-K to adjust my height, then Shft-P to pop up and down.

I'm also testing the Alt-H Altitude Hold and Alt-J and Alt-K are handy to adjust the control height for my nap-of-the-earth flying mode testing.

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#4422740 - 05/26/18 05:00 AM Re: EECH Hover Hold & Alt Hold Mods [Re: Javelin]  
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New status list:

Fix the Air_Density problem **DONE**
Fix Hover-Hold/Stable-Hover-Hold **DONE**
Fix Altitude-hold **DONE**
Add in auto-Bob-Up **DONE**
Update all of the physics parameters for all of the helos **DONE**

Go through all of the FM2 helos and fix various physics problems **Next**
Take a look at the auto-pilot to see if I can fix it

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