It's a Python. I'll be asking for ship module tips soon

I guess my requirements are going to be very different from most players. Weapons and defence stripped out of course and I may be adding an SRV bay to it to add to the already massive 7.5 km I've already travelled on planets.

Now this is how crap I am at building ships. I added my usual stuff,docking comp,more cargo,scanners etc and proudly guided it out of the docking port with a big grin on my face. Let's set course for the nearest system!

No,no you won't. My FSD doesn't have the range to reach the nearest system. So it's a quick 180 back in to dock and outfitting with a sheepish look on my face.

How did this man make Elite?

Congrats!!!

Excellent choice, if I may say so.

Obligatorily, this is My Python (in trader trim)

As you said, you have different goals and roles, but I think for the core internals at least, it's a good look. I run lower-class power plants on nearly all of my ships, and the Python is no exception. Without engineering though, you may need to run the class 7. Please ask any questions you may have.

After looking at your ship build it's obvious mine is quite inferior so I've copied your build except I've dropped the 4E and 3E cargo racks and added a docking computer and SRV hanger. Just took her out for a spin and all seems fine. Now to make up all those space ducats she's cost me

I did have 2 fuel tanks on mine with only a 3 rated fuel scoop but that 5 rated scoop sure hoovers up that fuel!

Well, that's the beauty of this ship, innit? You can configure it in so many ways.

Sometimes I swap all those racks for an interdictor and HRP/MRP and take it on assassination missions.

Or I throw a SRV on board and have a bash

Like this!



What an awesome ship. You chose well Chucky!

The Python is fantastic, perhaps my favorite medium ship. I actually sold mine, long ago, because I found myself flying nothing else!

Been trying to talk myself into buying a Python. Resisted the urge so far, the thought of the engineering grind to outfit it properly makes me shudder. I suppose I could strip my Chieftain and transfer the modules...

The engineering grind is different to each commander and I can see where you're coming from.

Personally, I've found it to not be a grind at all, but maybe I see or approach things a little differently than the next guy.

Matter of fact, "the grind" that everyone talks about almost put me off from getting this game. And maybe when I first started I felt it some, and perhaps that's what caused me to set Elite aside or a while. But since coming back I have expanded how I play, always mix it up to keep it fresh, and have eight mostly-fully engineered ships and haven;t at any point felt like I was grinding. But I realize that's me not you, and it's understandable that you feel differently about the whole thing.

Advice wasn't requested, but if I had some to give to someone about engineering, it would be this:

--Scan wakes. Like religiously. It's so easy, and they are right outside the station. For me a no-brainer. Use what you get here to trade at a mat trader to get what you need. Datamined Wake Exceptions for the win Alex!

-- Load up the SRV and go prospecting from time to time. Use what you gather to trade for what you need.

-- Investigate every HGE USS and scoop up what's there. Again, turn this in to what you need at a mat trader. I also really like Combat Aftermath and Encoded Emissions USSs.

And that's it. This is all that needs to be done (in my opinion). Well aside from flying the ships to the engineer. Remote workshops remove most of the pain of this even, Felicty is always my first stop with a new ship. G5 FSD with mass manager, the grade 1 power plant mod of my choice and G3 thrusters of my choice. Maybe a little scanner and sensor work while I'm there and the ship is already half-way to done.

Chucky congratulations on the new ship. You did buy it at Jameson Memorial yes? As your Elite now you get access to that system, station and all the discounts. It's one stop shopping .

Bohemond don't transfer or sell the Chieftain goodies. We'll talk.

DBond is right scoop up materials every chance you get as you play your way. Make use of those material traders to exchange for what you want. Pin a blueprint so you don't have to travel back to the long distance engineers, just use remote engineering then on.

Yes Wingnuts I did. That's some mall they got there

JM is now my new base of operations.

It's hard not to like that place. Everything in one spot sure makes outfitting great along with a lower rebuy.

It sure does. Big scoops are awesome, but fantastically expensive. I still only use a 6C on my Asp since the 6A runs 27 million freaking credits. That scoop alone would double the re-buy, not that I care so much about that. But it's more than the entire ship cost, all modules included, so I still run the 6C. Honestly, if I can get a rate of about 300 per second at <60% heat, I'm fine with it. I don't need to speedfuel, but don't want to sit there forever either. The star scan, the honk, and a glance at the system map all take about as long as the refuel usually, and that works out just fine.

On the Python, I've not spared anything, not least because it has plenty of everything for anything. It's the only ship I have an A-rated wake scanner on, since each grade of scanner doubles the power draw, and most of my combat ships can't support the higher ones (and I opt for low draw in ships engineered to run cool). Wake scanners need to have hardpoints deployed so less wiggle room with those. The Python doesn't really care. You can have all sorts of stuff drawing A-rated power on this ship.

One thing to be careful of if you did copy my core internals, is I have the smaller fuel tank. That can be trouble quick if you run in to a couple of Y or T stars in a row, but as an Elite explorer I can't tell you anything you don't already know

Here's a link to my Python build

https://eddp.co/u/EeffjqSP

Heavily modified. I'll swap out the HRP's and put in cargo racks for 200t of freight. Pretty much can't kill those shields though . hope it gives some ideas.

Chucky, JM is my home port also. Right now, I’m just be-bopping around the nearby systems running missions. Gimme a shout if u see me on. Utumno is my nom de guerre.

DBond,I did notice the fuel tank size,so fitted a 5C tank pretty quickly. It's a bit disconcerting when one jump gobbles up a fair chunk of the fuel.

Wingnuts,that looks one tough mother of a build but overkill for me.Maybe one day if I decide to pew pew again.

Bohemond,I play in solo almost exclusively now. I'm also staying in the area for a while repping up with the local factions. After the grinding I did I'm relaxing a little.

I rarely take the Python very far, it's just a bubble-runner and the Mass Manager experimental effect decreases the fuel required to jump. Without it the fuel goes more quickly.

My stored modules are filled with all sizes of fuel tanks, and I regularly swap them in and out depending on what I'm doing.

My builds tend to be lighter than most I see. I don't run armor on any of my ships, I'm only playing PvE (unless I forget I board-hopped to open lol) so armor would just weight the ship down, decreasing jump, speed and agility, and is not needed IMO for PvE. Plus it's quite expensive.

Wingy's build is formidable, very well protected, and it costs about double of what my ship does. I bought it all in LYR systems and the total spent was about 110 million. Pretty good for such a great ship. The 6A power plant is 35 million credits less than the 7A.

The medium pad ability really opens up some lucrative missions, for me especially the boom time deliveries to outposts which can pay very well.

For you guys hanging with the upper crust at Jameson, do you ever see any missions from other systems going TO Jameson or Shinrata Dezhra?

I was going to question the armour on your Python build but as you say,in PvE it's not something to worry about.

Yes, that's my opinion, but YMMV.

It's really difficult for the NPC bad guys to chew through so much shielding. In PvP it would different, and armor and module protection is required.

In CZs the ships are more militarized than in RES sites, but even then I don't feel like armor is required. Then again, I run nothing but shield tanks. I've run builds using heaps of MRPs and HRPs, and armor even, but in the end I decided it just wasn't needed. This is clearly a matter of personal opinion and armored builds are certainly viable.

Well saying that I just had a session in PvE where my new Python was ripped up when I decided to submit and run rather than play the evasion game (shields went down in seconds) and hull quickly down to 70%. Luckily I had just watched that video about 'Trading Survival' WingNuts posted and I had another system selected so I could FSD straight out of there because if I had waited for the FSD to spool up to S/C I'd have lost the ship.

How effective are the fighter bays,anyone use them?

What the mj on your shields? Are you running boosters?

On the first I'm not sure.How do I find out? On the second,no.All weapon and utility slots are empty.

If you can spare the power maybe add a few shield boosters.

For the mj, go in to outfitting>optional internals and hover the mouse over your shield generator. It will display the mj (megajoules) lower left. It may say shield strength.

Chucky - Chucky _ Chucky!!!! What did the video say?

Repeat after me " I will watch the video again"

It says 398 (shield strength). There isn't a more powerful option. A grade 'A' shield booster puts it up 477.6. I assume that means total is 875.6. Does a shield booster just work or do you have to activate it? I've never used one.

WingNuts,I will watch it again

Shield boosters will just work, unless you disable them in right screen under modules. Run 3 pips in system to reinforce your shields. I would suggest running 3 A boosters. Check the link I gave you on my build as to how I strengthened mine. You will want to overcharge that power plant at some point. Make sure your using the best power distributor you can afford.

When I trade in my Python I just remove all HRP's and the interdictor for cargo racks = 200t.

No that 477 is the total strength. Each A booster increases it by 20% of the base strength. What shield generator are you using?

Wingy and I are both running three boosters on our snakes. Thaty's a really nice 60% boost.

For Chucky that would take you to about 637, which is way better But of course you need to the power to run them. And why Wingy is talking about Overcharging, though I am using a slightly overcharged 6A on my Python, but I don't have it packed with whizbangs like SCBs.