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#4418198 - 04/28/18 02:16 AM
Re: Big budget but still terrible
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My absolute top 3 Cameron films: Aliens, Terminator 2, Terminator.
Avatar, The Abyss and Titanic were ok.
True Lies was just stupid. I thought Tom Arnold was great in True Lies. Bill Paxton as the sleazy car salesman putting the moves on his clients was great too.  Wheels
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#4432914 - 08/04/18 05:16 AM
Re: Big budget but still terrible
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I've seen many sci-fi movies over the years that had tiny production budgets and I can completely understand why the acting, production values and script were not very good. This is not to say that there haven't been good sci-fi movies that were made on a small budget but they are relatively rare.
Having said that, I find it really absurd and sad that 70 million or more can be spent on a sci-fi movie and it STILL turns out to be a turd. Here are a few examples:
Battlefield Earth (2000) budget: 73 million
Valerian (2017) budget: 177 million
Jupiter Ascending (2015) budget: 176 million
Babylon AD (2008) budget: 70 million
Geostorm (2017) budget: 120 million
Battleship (2012) budget: 209 million
Independence Day: Resurgence (2016) budget: 165 million
Valarian IS GOOD, the problem with the film is that it created so much about the genre that when you actually adapted it, it became cliche of itself, also the main actors are dull and uncharismatic,that hurts a lot, i personally would had changed the ending to non cliche. the worst offender is IDR, like what the #%&*$# ! not even going to put the 22 years of waiting, who aproved that script ? a giant alien queen ? man some executive really had a beef and wanted to outdo cameron.
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#4432977 - 08/04/18 03:26 PM
Re: Big budget but still terrible
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I'll add Star Trek Into Darkness here - that movie was offensively bad in my opinion. It was like the makers said, "Hey Star Trek fans, we're going to make a movie that lacks creativity and makes no sense, but in the process, we're going to crap all over the movie you like best.  "
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#4433024 - 08/04/18 08:27 PM
Re: Big budget but still terrible
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I'll add Star Trek Into Darkness here - that movie was offensively bad in my opinion. It was like the makers said, "Hey Star Trek fans, we're going to make a movie that lacks creativity and makes no sense, but in the process, we're going to crap all over the movie you like best. " +1
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#4433513 - 08/08/18 01:42 AM
Re: Big budget but still terrible
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I'll add Star Trek Into Darkness here - that movie was offensively bad in my opinion. It was like the makers said, "Hey Star Trek fans, we're going to make a movie that lacks creativity and makes no sense, but in the process, we're going to crap all over the movie you like best. " Worst of the three new movies by a country mile.
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#4433519 - 08/08/18 02:32 AM
Re: Big budget but still terrible
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I'll add Star Trek Into Darkness here - that movie was offensively bad in my opinion. It was like the makers said, "Hey Star Trek fans, we're going to make a movie that lacks creativity and makes no sense, but in the process, we're going to crap all over the movie you like best. " Worst of the three new movies by a country mile. I wouldn't say "by a country mile" as I found "Star Trek Beyond" to be pretty ridiculous as well. All of Abrams movies were to me just SciFi action flicks in ST uniforms on ST ships, but "Beyond" was the worst in that regard.
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#4433743 - 08/09/18 06:02 PM
Re: Big budget but still terrible
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I haven't watched True Lies in years, but remember it being a very fun no-brainer action film. You go in expecting explosions and stunts and one-liners and some sort of plot hanging it together.
Agreed. What made the film work is that the film made no pretenses about what it was. It was Cameron's farcical take on the popcorn action movie genre that became so popular in the 80's.
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#4435472 - 08/23/18 05:20 PM
Re: Big budget but still terrible
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Battlefield Earth (2000) budget: 73 million The first movie I ever sat all the way through saying "Da Fuq" and letting it just roll over me like a huge series of car wrecks. But not the good kind where they blow up real good. More like parking lot fender benders. Where the drivers are Polish and Armenian and yell at each other in their native languages with the subtitles in French. It really is an artistic accomplishment when one thinks about it: It's terrible from top to bottom. But no so terrible that it's funny and enjoyable. Keeping that perfect balance is a rare and wonderous thing.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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