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#4415329 - 04/08/18 10:10 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Now my posting rights have been suspended on DCS FORUMS for my above post. rolleyes 2.5 is now released as a bugged POS and VEAO still owes me a P40. Nineline can stick it where the sun doesn't shine and ED needs to learn that when they release a product that doesn't work with their own product requirements that customers are going to be unhappy. Now their requirements say 8GBs(16GBs for heavy missions) minimum. That is a bunch of bull. I have a mission with only 8 planes in the air and nothing else on the winter Caucus map that uses between 12 and 16 GBs the whole mission. I am surprised someone isn't suing them for false advertising. What a joke.

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#4415331 - 04/08/18 10:17 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: Blade_Meister]  
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Originally Posted by Force10
Appartley...it's not a "memory leak":

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ED demand you guys upgrade to 32GB, but if you are running 8GB, you may need to evolve with the times, and understand that as ED offers bigger more detailed environments, the demands on your system will need to evolve as well.
I hope this clarifies a little more of what is going on, and that ED is truly working to make this the best experience for all.


Looks like they spent so much time making it shiney...now you have to strip units out of an already sterile and lifeless battlefield to make it playable. thumbsup

Ha! So they didn't know about this increased demands on systems when they were testing and making videos for their teasers? They're only highlighting themselves for the idiots that they are! At first it was a memory leak issue that could've crept in between development and release of the beta version, but now it was present in the engine all along? Hurr durr!!


Originally Posted by malibu43
You guys are all acting like they gave up and just said "Oh well. We can't fix it. Guess you guys need more RAM." Did you read the part of the update where they state they are still working on a fix to optimize RAM usage?

On a product that has taken them 4+ years to make? On a product that just lost the Beta label and is now officially a Release version? An 8GB RAM kit costs £95 and is reasonable for most 64-bit systems now. Up that to 16GB and that's £150+ for a kit, and most users with even that much RAM are having issues. A 32GB kit costs £300. Buying that to play DCS, nothing seems wrong with that picture for you? Is 32GB enough to run DCS with no RAM issues? On a software that they've been working on for the past 4+ years? On a software that's released in 2018?

Rely on ED to make their software work with the absolute minimum number of their customers smile


Originally Posted by malibu43
Originally Posted by Flogger23m
Played a quick mission centered around ground units. Looks like ground vehicles still have obscene tracking and accuracy against fighters. Must have been at least 1500 feet in a MIG-29 when a BMP-2 blew me to bits with ease. Every ground vehicle can still track me extremely fast, even if they are manually operated turrets. With the field of view in a vehicle such as a BMP being very narrow I can't see why they can accuracy pinpoint an aircraft and track with such accuracy. Coming in for a gun/rocket run is almost suicidal because they tend to track, aim and open fire right as you get into range and start lining up your target. Very disappointed in this, because air to ground (outside of ATGMs) is still practically non-playable

As an A-10A flyer, I'm also anxiously waiting for this to be fixed. I bumped a thread about this at ED a few weeks ago hoping it gets fixed soon.

Soon? How long has this issue been an issue? I remember jousting against BMPs in DCS A10C when Shilkas ceased being a challenge. I've not played DCS for 4-5 years now, maybe more. So yeah. Soon.


Originally Posted by malibu43
The other big one for me is that most of the FC3 campaigns are broken in 2.5. Now that 2.5 is the "release" branch, they better get those fixed.

Whoa, whoa, whoa!! Slow down there! It looks like you're just looking for things to complain about now! biggrin


Originally Posted by the soupdragon
It just sticks in my craw?? that they are pushing the blame on us.

TOTALLY your fault for not having 32GB RAM, SD! Get with the times! Us hard-core gamers are rocking 64GB RAM kits nowadays! smile
Also TOTALLY not ED's fault that they didn't realize that the quad-SLI 1080Ti rigs they're running with 128GB RAM isn't representative of their customer base!



Originally Posted by Blade_Meister
Well, I am done with DCS until they sort things out. I posted this on Ninelines thread and I tried to remain polite.

Welcome to the club, Blade. Take a seat, get comfy!

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You apparently did not post with the required level of humility smile How dare YOU, a PAYING customer, raise an issue??!?!??!!
biggrin biggrin biggrin


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Now my posting rights have been suspended on DCS FORUMS for my above post. rolleyes

Seems like the ban hammer and 1.13 are alive and well!


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#4416536 - 04/16/18 05:02 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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#4416544 - 04/16/18 05:38 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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#4416557 - 04/16/18 06:45 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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#4416560 - 04/16/18 06:59 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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a nice touch - but wasn't this available in the A-10C when it was released ?


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#4416563 - 04/16/18 07:09 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Funny how raindrops was a priority and how ED apparently listens to the customer's "wish list".... when it suits them. How about the other, more higher-ranking items on that wish list, Wags?


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#4416564 - 04/16/18 07:14 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
a nice touch - but wasn't this available in the A-10C when it was released ?

Yes a nice touch. But how long before the end user gets to experience it for themselves? Im thinking, due to past experience, that this will only be abailable for the development branch and testers for at least another year.


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Wags October 2017 "the investment vs. generated revenue has been excellent for the World War II aircraft. In fact, the P-51D Mustang has twice the cost effectiveness of the A-10C Warthog."
#4416573 - 04/16/18 07:53 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Oh FFS.......a priority once 2.5 left open beta! I don't know whether to laugh or cry.


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#4416577 - 04/16/18 08:02 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
a nice touch - but wasn't this available in the A-10C when it was released ?


No.


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#4416594 - 04/16/18 09:18 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: Johnny_Redd]  
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OK

I just watched the video only for a few seconds - it sure is an improvement.


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#4416609 - 04/16/18 10:26 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Which you will notice for the brief period you're on the ground. When you're not busy setting up systems or trying to remember your role in the party.

DCS Pretty Wallpaper Generator is coming along nicely with the added bonus of DCS Pretty Videos Recorder DLC.


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#4416625 - 04/17/18 12:07 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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that is why it is called eye-candy wink


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#4416655 - 04/17/18 08:45 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
that is why it is called eye-candy wink


I was thinking it more like a waste of time and resources.

#4416664 - 04/17/18 10:43 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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why ? is it anywhere near release date ? from what I understand they will release at first an early preview version, the beta version will take somewhat longer

so they have time to add eye candy to it, I am OK with that since I don't plan to purchase it any time soon, if ever.


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#4416680 - 04/17/18 01:32 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Doesn't matter how close it is to release date, the fact is they're working on eye candy that you will notice for 5 seconds and move on while they're way behind schedule on items that you will be using time and time again on the sim.

How often will you really stop and admire these raindrops and LEX vapor trails before going back to the business at hand? How often will you be using A-A modes or A-G radar or AIM-120s or LGBs? Shows you how ED prioritizes things when they work on raindrops because the customers have it on their wish list yet ED will release the Hornet with a stunted A-A mode, no A-G, limited ordnance..... maybe the customers need to put those on their wish list too so that ED actually works on those?

This time around, people can't say "oh, those people have different skillsets from those who do code" as I'm sure the devs making code needed for this eye candy (raindrops and LEX vapor trails) can also make code for A-A radar, A-G radar, etc. This is not about texture artists not having enough work and are thus making various skins, this is coders working on eye candy when they can work on actual avionics stuff that matter.


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#4416704 - 04/17/18 02:16 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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they might have bought a license from PrecipitFX and implemented it - which would be a 3rd party work.

it is odd that of late I am defending the developer ... biggrin whatever.


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That piece of "eye candy" is probably going to increase the minimum specs yet again. So upgrade your RAM everybody.


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#4416718 - 04/17/18 04:13 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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sure will - that is why it is called "eye candy" - how much is the recommended RAM now ?


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