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#4412621 - 03/24/18 08:07 PM Choppers are floating/moving on helipad?  
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On 1.16 .Saw it mention a few times but with not much feedback. No issue on Vista 64bit but Win 7 64bit yes. What could be the issue?

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#4412695 - 03/25/18 12:39 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Hi Marc,

I seem to remember a thread discussing this issue of the aircraft bouncing around on the pad. I believe it was a problem in the original release of the game, but I thought that one of the modders had sorted it by version 16.

Can anyone confirm this ?

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#4412782 - 03/25/18 11:24 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Thanks Andy, I've read that it was hardware related but that's it. I guess I will run it on the Vista system

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#4413408 - 03/29/18 03:50 AM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Anyone?

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#4414124 - 04/01/18 12:13 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Hi, Marc!

In older versions (1.15 and prior) there was an issue with suspension code - when helicopter is landed, it shaking (looks like small vibration). even if it was noticeable only with large view zoom.
in the process of making improvements I have applied some changes in suspension and dynamics code and this issue was fixed - calculations became more precise and smooth. at least for me. but later reports appear from different users that helicopter jumping around, that most of the testers doesn't confirm. it happen for different systems (I have tested it on Win 7x64 and Win8x86 myself never seen this), and most important - today helicopter is jumping around, but tomorrow it can be still and calm. That problem doesn't have any explanation, it may be some error in the calculations, or the way how hardware process floating point. It can be fixed for sure, but I need to be able to replicate this issue myself, which was not possible at the moment of development. And now this issue exists in stable version and only option you have - play with values of suspension files (\common\data\suspension), like make it more soft etc.

#4414160 - 04/01/18 04:34 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: thealx]  
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Originally Posted by thealx
Hi, Marc!

In older versions (1.15 and prior) there was an issue with suspension code - when helicopter is landed, it shaking (looks like small vibration). even if it was noticeable only with large view zoom.
in the process of making improvements I have applied some changes in suspension and dynamics code and this issue was fixed - calculations became more precise and smooth. at least for me. but later reports appear from different users that helicopter jumping around, that most of the testers doesn't confirm. it happen for different systems (I have tested it on Win 7x64 and Win8x86 myself never seen this), and most important - today helicopter is jumping around, but tomorrow it can be still and calm. That problem doesn't have any explanation, it may be some error in the calculations, or the way how hardware process floating point. It can be fixed for sure, but I need to be able to replicate this issue myself, which was not possible at the moment of development. And now this issue exists in stable version and only option you have - play with values of suspension files (\common\data\suspension), like make it more soft etc.


Thanks a million for taking the time, I will check it out, at least it doesn't happen on Vista, even if it's an old system it plays great but wont be able to stay on Vista forever

BTW you guys are great

Marc..


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#4414166 - 04/01/18 05:02 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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I'm still on win 7, stay away from win 10, it's a disaster.

#4414200 - 04/01/18 08:09 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: XIII]  
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Originally Posted by XIII
I'm still on win 7, stay away from win 10, it's a disaster.

Yeah!! I'm not about to upgrade to 10, that's for sure

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#4414773 - 04/04/18 11:18 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Well!! I made the floating/moving on the helipad stop smile Looks like it's related to the ground control comms, once in the cockpit, if I go in the comm menu (tab), press 5 then 3 for the ground control set to off , it stops the floating/moving on the helipad

Can I set this as default , so it's off when I enter the cockpit? Because I can always put it back on and it wont make the floating/moving happen again

Marc..

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#4414820 - 04/05/18 07:46 AM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Cant check atm,but search eech.ini for disable.

#4414860 - 04/05/18 03:04 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: XIII]  
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Originally Posted by XIII
Cant check atm,but search eech.ini for disable.

Perfect!!

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#4414863 - 04/05/18 03:23 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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If you play apache now, dont forget install this textures. Dont know why this thread are still no pinned btw
download
http://www.cockpits.net/website/freecockpits.html
and gallery
http://www.cockpits.net/website/PRODGAL_AH64D_cockpit_EECH.html



#4414870 - 04/05/18 04:21 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: XIII]  
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Originally Posted by XIII
If you play apache now, dont forget install this textures. Dont know why this thread are still no pinned btw
download
http://www.cockpits.net/website/freecockpits.html
and gallery
http://www.cockpits.net/website/PRODGAL_AH64D_cockpit_EECH.html



Holly F*ck!! Wow!! That should definitely be a sticky. My wife is going to hate you guys smile
Thanks a bunch
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#4414871 - 04/05/18 04:26 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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My wife is going to hate you guys smile

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hmmmm it's already the second, the first is the Viper woman rolleyes

#4414902 - 04/05/18 07:43 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: XIII]  
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Originally Posted by XIII



My wife is going to hate you guys smile

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hmmmm it's already the second, the first is the Viper woman rolleyes [/quote]
Hahaha funny wink

Marc..


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#4415250 - 04/08/18 10:30 AM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: XIII]  
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Originally Posted by XIII
If you play apache now, dont forget install this textures. Dont know why this thread are still no pinned btw
download
http://www.cockpits.net/website/freecockpits.html
and gallery
http://www.cockpits.net/website/PRODGAL_AH64D_cockpit_EECH.html




Were these not included in a previous update anyway, as cockpits.nl donated them?

#4415252 - 04/08/18 10:40 AM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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No,because there two cockpits-clickable,and not clickable.for normal 1.16 is not included.

#4415282 - 04/08/18 04:49 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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One thing I noticed, not sure it was like this before I installed the 3d texture from cockpits.nl, I tried uninstall and reinstall but that's what I get, the rest of the cockpit is fine. Any ideas?
[Linked Image]

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#4415377 - 04/09/18 05:34 AM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Mod author asked to include it to installer only if it's necessary (for clickable cockpits some texture changes was made).

As for issue - looks like some DDS textures are presented, they has to be flipped vertically for 1.16.0 compatibly.

#4415386 - 04/09/18 09:52 AM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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I have this issue too using 1.16.0.

#4419735 - 05/09/18 05:41 AM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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I fixed the problem by re-installing the 1.16.0 upgrade, now my cockpit is back to normal.

#4419740 - 05/09/18 06:41 AM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Javelin]  
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Originally Posted by Javelin
I fixed the problem by re-installing the 1.16.0 upgrade, now my cockpit is back to normal.

Will try that thanks

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#4450256 - 11/23/18 10:45 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Javelin, are you saying that the new hi res cockpit textures are correct or did you managed to get back to original textures? I have the same problem and reinstalling did not change anything at all. I have removed the folder with new cockpit textures and put the old one back in...but the strange thing is that the new flipped textures are still present when I run Afognak map but on any other maps the old cockpit is present. WTF? Any ideas?

#4450259 - 11/23/18 11:10 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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go to cohokum graphic textures cockpit ah64dcockpit\ and delete everytning from this folder.and only then reinstall (if you do not delete the old installation)

#4450349 - 11/24/18 07:32 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Hi there

Did that, my cockpit is back to normal (low-res) but I've managed to pull some dds files from the hi res package, converted them to bmp's and replaced original textures with the hi res ones. Seems to be working now. A lot of hassle but still worth it LOL

#4450351 - 11/24/18 07:56 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Yes, this is a good way, if you do it with all textures, then please pack and share for others smile

#4450355 - 11/24/18 08:16 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Will do. Need to test a few things first as I want to be 100% sure it will be working as it should. Once everything has been tested I will share it smile

#4450388 - 11/25/18 02:35 AM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Right, all working (I think).

If you want you can test it - please remove all files from "ah-64d-cockpit" folder in \cohokum\graphics\textures\cockpit\ah-64d-cockpit , download my rar file (see below), extract all files into the "ah-64d-cockpit" folder and enjoy.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wmsJxLyrLaGEYXrdtWUn-peLg8UMTK7x

Please let me know if everything works (or not lol!)


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#4450400 - 11/25/18 09:29 AM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Thats fast wink wil check later. Maybe please make new thread with this for better info for
people.

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Well I have been working on this till like 2.30 am lol. Anyway, new thread created ( http://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4450453/ah-64d-hi-res-cockpit-for-1-16#Post4450453 ) so will see if people will like it or not wink To be honest I have made backups of backups of another backups of my EECH folder so could try from scratch when things were going a bit odd (or maybe as was just paranoid and tired). Anyway, any future questions about the work will hopefully go on that new thread.

#4450460 - 11/25/18 09:01 PM Re: Choppers are floating/moving on helipad? [Re: Marc]  
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Well people do backing up. or they will start to do it ;)I also make 100 backups, and copy to the cloud.
Thanks for work .

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