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#4411979 - 03/21/18 06:44 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: Fullofit]  
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No pony or unicorn, but I have a question for Fullofit or anyone else that might want to have thunder and lightning with the cloud mod: would you prefer that thunder and lightning be turned on by default or turned off? The player would either have to activate thunder and lightning during the spring and summer months, or deactivate it during the winter months (unless you enjoy thunder-snow)! Either one would involve overwriting some of the cloud files and result in JSGME displaying that annoying error message about overwriting existing files.


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#4411999 - 03/21/18 07:42 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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My personal preference would be to have it off by default Buckeye.
Will you be releasing a version that doesn't incorporate the Thunder/ Lightning at all pal? If it's not to much trouble.Cheers Buckeye


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#4412011 - 03/21/18 08:12 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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Adger, I can build the mod in two parts (actually two separate mods) so that you don't have to have thunder and lightning at all, if you don't want it. Others can activate the thunder and lightning according to their wishes.

There is also a chance that our resident (and Barmy) coding wizard, JJJ, can automate the whole process!


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#4412029 - 03/21/18 09:01 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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BuckeyeBob, I have a feeling most people don’t want thunder and lightning. Best would be to have it off by default. Anyone that would want it would just turn it on. Maybe have it as an option in ME? I’m looking at you, oh Barmy coding wizard. salute


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#4412055 - 03/21/18 10:24 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: Fullofit]  
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I agree, F. I think off by default is the best way to go.


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#4412062 - 03/21/18 10:41 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBob
Adger, I can build the mod in two parts (actually two separate mods) so that you don't have to have thunder and lightning at all, if you don't want it. Others can activate the thunder and lightning according to their wishes.

There is also a chance that our resident (and Barmy) coding wizard, JJJ, can automate the whole process!


Cheers Buckeye,nice one pal..cmon Triple J wave that magic wand of yours thumbsup


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#4412126 - 03/22/18 06:19 AM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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On standby, engine running and waiting for BB's files, Sirs.

#4412135 - 03/22/18 09:31 AM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: JJJ65]  
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Originally Posted by JJJ65
On standby, engine running and waiting for BB's files, Sirs.

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#4412231 - 03/22/18 04:42 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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Unfortunately, I hit a bit of a snag late last night. The short lesson is, don't open two versions of the same file at the same time, because you quickly become confused as to which is which! However, after much sorting and cursing, I think I now have things under control. On the negative side, this means that completion of the mod has been set back by a day or two. OTOH, I have sent a preliminary version of the mod to Jara for him to work with, so it shouldn't take him long to implement any small changes that I might make. Keep faith!


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#4412232 - 03/22/18 04:49 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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One thing I am working with Jara to possibly implement is to randomly produce different intensities of thunderstorms. For example, with Jara's help, I can easily change both the frequency of thunder and lightning strikes, as well as the distance from the pilot, etc. Granted, most Great war pilots would have been crazy to go up in the middle of a thunderstorm, but it might be interesting to try in a mod. Any thoughts?


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#4412237 - 03/22/18 05:12 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBob
One thing I am working with Jara to possibly implement is to randomly produce different intensities of thunderstorms. For example, with Jara's help, I can easily change both the frequency of thunder and lightning strikes, as well as the distance from the pilot, etc. Granted, most Great war pilots would have been crazy to go up in the middle of a thunderstorm, but it might be interesting to try in a mod. Any thoughts?



Bob, it's quite reasonable to assume that a thunder storm front could move into a fair weather area unexpectedly.


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#4412278 - 03/22/18 09:17 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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^^^This is true.


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#4412303 - 03/22/18 10:59 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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Plus, if you can control the distance, then the thunderstorm could be happening somewhere far in the background. That could be very atmospheric!


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#4412305 - 03/22/18 11:15 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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Did you know that there already is a Thunder and Lightning mod out there?


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#4412310 - 03/23/18 12:12 AM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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Yup, but it doesn’t play nice with BuckeyeBob’s cloud mod.


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#4412385 - 03/23/18 03:29 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Bob, it's quite reasonable to assume that a thunder storm front could move into a fair weather area unexpectedly.


True. I suppose if that did happen, the procedure would be to immediately scrub the mission and land as quickly as possible at the nearest friendly airfield. Maybe someone could add an addition to the DiD rules that for every minute aloft after the sighting of lightning, there is a 1% cumulative chance that you are struck by lightning and killed!?? eek

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#4412401 - 03/23/18 04:20 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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Well, there's that chance I suppose. RTB in that situation seems as much common sense as it is an evolutionary prerogative.


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#4412429 - 03/23/18 06:14 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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**** procedure, sir! Let's get the hell outta here!


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#4412439 - 03/23/18 07:23 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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Although I am still tidying up a few things, OCM 2.9 is almost ready to launch!

Here is a list of the major changes and updates:
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Version 2.9
22 March 2018
• New: Thunder and lightning added to a few cloud types. Note: for now, this feature cannot be disabled. However, the next version of JJJ’s ME will both automatically turn thunder and lightning on and off according to the season and allow the user to easily disable thunder and lightning entirely if desired.
• New: Added three additional cloud types and revised several others.
• Clouds in several weather folders reassigned to more clearly distinguish between different weather conditions.
• Minor revisions to a few weather descriptions.
• A few other miscellaneous changes and tweaks.

Comments: Jara is currently working on an update to the ME that will automatically enable thunder and lightning during the spring and summer and disable it over the winter. He will also provide an option to disable thunder and lightning for those who do not want it. For now, however, this feature is turned "on" by default, so some users may temporarily experience some lightning during the winter.

I have added a couple of cloud types and revised a few others. I also dropped one or two types that still had significant cloud popping and banding.

The reassignment of clouds in several weather folders should provide more consistency in weather conditions and also help to more clearly distinguish between good and poor weather types. In other words, you should now get more clear and sunny weather in "Good" and "Light" conditions. Overall, this will result in a slight increase of nice weather over the course of a year.

I still have a few items to work on, so now is the last time for comments and suggestions!


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#4412461 - 03/23/18 09:10 PM Re: Optional Cloud Mod [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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BuckeyeBob, that sounds peachy. Can’t wait! Next, we have to get some hail going. Lightning and thunder, fire and fury!
BTW, what’s wrong with flying in a wooden crate with lightning going off around? Wood doesn’t conduct electricity. darkcloud


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