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#4411900 - 03/21/18 02:06 PM What is the sweet spot for RAM  
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How much RAM would be best for running Xplane11 and P3D V4.2?

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#4411909 - 03/21/18 02:51 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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I think another relevant question is if the increased cost of a bigger RAM kit is worth what performance it brings to the table?

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#4411917 - 03/21/18 03:19 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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8 GB for the GPU and 16 GB for Windows - anything more than that and you are wasting your money, I have 32 GB and I would like to have 64GB as Photoshop can use it, but that is too much $.

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#4411922 - 03/21/18 03:28 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: - Ice]  
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That's why I am asking so I don't waste any money

Main PC: ASUS P8Z77 - Intel I7 3770K OC to 4.4GHZ - Thermaltake Water2.0 Pro
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16 Gig G.Skill Ares DDR3
Samsung EVO SSD 500GB
Plenty of storage
Windows 7 64bit
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SIMPIT: ASUS Prime Z370-A, I7 8700K, H80i-V2 watercooler
ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 2080
Windows 10 64bit
32GB 2400 DDR4 memory
Thrustmaster Warthog - 2-TM MFDs
Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals,4 -FIPs, TPM, Radio, Multipanel, Switch Panel, Pro Flight Yoke
3 - 32" Samsung monitors-1920x1080, 22" Samsung monitor
#4411927 - 03/21/18 03:55 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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Don't know about X Plane but for P3D V4.2 at least 16 Gb.
#4411931 - 03/21/18 04:03 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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16 GB seems to be right now what we need - it is better to spend on a faster SSD and 8GB GPU nowadays than to have RAM you won't use
Originally Posted by specialksl
That's why I am asking so I don't waste any money


16 GB seems to be right now what we need - it is better to spend on a faster SSD and 8GB GPU nowadays than to have RAM you won't use.

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#4411935 - 03/21/18 04:20 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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Thanks all. 16GB it is!

Main PC: ASUS P8Z77 - Intel I7 3770K OC to 4.4GHZ - Thermaltake Water2.0 Pro
GeForce GTX 970
16 Gig G.Skill Ares DDR3
Samsung EVO SSD 500GB
Plenty of storage
Windows 7 64bit
ASUS PB278Q @ 2560x1440

SIMPIT: ASUS Prime Z370-A, I7 8700K, H80i-V2 watercooler
ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 2080
Windows 10 64bit
32GB 2400 DDR4 memory
Thrustmaster Warthog - 2-TM MFDs
Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals,4 -FIPs, TPM, Radio, Multipanel, Switch Panel, Pro Flight Yoke
3 - 32" Samsung monitors-1920x1080, 22" Samsung monitor
#4411947 - 03/21/18 04:46 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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smile

if your MoBo allows it - get 2xRAID SSD for OS and an M2.SSD that you can use for swap files/temp stuff

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#4411953 - 03/21/18 04:52 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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Why get a RAID SSD? Can you really tell the difference vs non-RAID? On an SSD?

Are there no P3D-specific reviews to see if additional RAM over 16GB would be beneficial? I would suspect best place to ask would be the official P3D forums? Same thing for XP11.

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#4411966 - 03/21/18 06:09 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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it is very fast - I have 2x500GB RAID SSD and 2x1TB HD RAID + 250GB M2.SSD for Photoshop to temp files and I need all this as have to handle 10-20GB PSB skin templates, RAID is a must have.

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#4411980 - 03/21/18 06:44 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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I meant for gaming/simming in general, not for photoshop smile

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#4411996 - 03/21/18 07:19 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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if you have to load tens of GB of terrain textures - there is where your terrain files should be , I have all my P3D photo-real terrain on my HD RAID and they load significantly faster.

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#4412013 - 03/21/18 08:16 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
on my HD RAID and they load significantly faster.

And what if they were on a simple SSD? Would they be faster than HDD RAID?

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#4412019 - 03/21/18 08:38 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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probably - SSD are always better than even a fast HD, but having a RAID HD makes it less so.

I have had RAID now for so many years - and they are great, you don't need to spend so much money and still get very good performance.

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#4412028 - 03/21/18 08:56 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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I agree, but back to my original question --- Why RAID an SSD? It will be faster, yes, but I doubt if it's anything significant? In productivity, sure, but for us simple folk that just game?

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#4412030 - 03/21/18 09:13 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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Here's an interesting comparison video.


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#4412045 - 03/21/18 09:54 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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if you have a MoBo that supports RAID and 2 identical drives - that is the way to go smile

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#4412057 - 03/21/18 10:26 PM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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I think that's par for the course now for most gaming motherboards smile What I'm trying to establish is whether RAID is worth it if you already have an SSD for gaming? Especially in the XP11/P3D arena? Obviously if you're the type to SLI your GPUs, then RAID on SSDs/NVMes would just be chump change biggrin

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#4412092 - 03/22/18 01:17 AM Re: What is the sweet spot for RAM [Re: specialksl]  
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if cost is not a problem ... regardless of how much you can spend, RAID is an excellent way to cut down on load times, I need to load 20 GB templates and that is what drives the need for RAID, with P3D, the first time I run it, it takes also up to 5 minutes to load all those textures, so it is worthwhile.

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