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#4411106 - 03/16/18 11:29 PM Re: "Historical" films [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Hi PM,

I regret to say that Braveheart didn’t just have “major factual inaccuracies”, it had no accuracies at all! Well, they did get the names right..

But Speaking as a Scot, it broke my heart to see such a complete travesty of the life of one of our two great national heroes (the other being Robert the Bruce, himself sorely maligned in this awful movie).

The worst of it was, there was actually no need for all the “dramatic licence”, the true story of the Wallace is more than dramatic enough as it is!

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#4411109 - 03/16/18 11:38 PM Re: "Historical" films [Re: Mike Dora]  
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Originally Posted by Mike Dora
Hi PM,

I regret to say that Braveheart didn’t just have “major factual inaccuracies”, it had no accuracies at all! Well, they did get the names right..

But Speaking as a Scot, it broke my heart to see such a complete travesty of the life of one of our two great national heroes (the other being Robert the Bruce, himself sorely maligned in this awful movie).

The worst of it was, there was actually no need for all the “dramatic licence”, the true story of the Wallace is more than dramatic enough as it is!

Cheers

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#4411110 - 03/16/18 11:48 PM Re: "Historical" films [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Since I just watched it-

The Duellists

Good God what a beautiful film


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#4411168 - 03/17/18 11:21 AM Re: "Historical" films [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Star Wars series.

Apparently it happened a long, long time ago. So facts are hard to verify.


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#4411171 - 03/17/18 12:07 PM Re: "Historical" films [Re: 462cid]  
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Originally Posted by 462cid
Since I just watched it-

The Duellists

Good God what a beautiful film


It is isn't it? Nearly ever rich and stylised frame looking like an Old Master artwork. Harvey Keitel was particularly excellent as Feraud.
Keitel was also superb in another film which should be on this list, 'Grey Zone'



#4411268 - 03/18/18 05:24 AM Re: "Historical" films [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Dunkirk, and The Darkest Hours.

Unbelievably good and historical for the most part. Forget WSC in the tube taking opinion polls.

The reality was enough.


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#4411512 - 03/19/18 05:37 PM Re: "Historical" films [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Surprised Bridge on the River Kwai wasn't mentioned. Seven Academy Awards including Best Picture and Best Actor. Definitely not realistic but well made and well acted.

Best Years of Our Lives, great story about adjusting to civilian life after years of war, many of our current troops can relate to it.






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#4411514 - 03/19/18 05:42 PM Re: "Historical" films [Re: Wklink]  
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Originally Posted by Wklink
Surprised Bridge on the River Kwai wasn't mentioned. Seven Academy Awards including Best Picture and Best Actor. Definitely not realistic but well made and well acted.



Based on interviews I've read from WWII veterans, it seems the single biggest inaccuracy of the movie was how the treatment of the POW's by the Japanese was portrayed. The treatment in the real war was much, much worse than how it was portrayed in the film.


I don't think this inaccuracy could have been avoided though. The movie was released in 1957! A realistic portrayal of POW's would not have gotten past the movie board censors.


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It would have completely changed the plot too. If it went for accuracy the plot would have been: British march in, Japanese say officers work too, LTC Nicholson objects, LTC Nicholson is shot and the group is worked to death.

Not a compelling story. True but very little chance for good story telling.


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#4411526 - 03/19/18 06:42 PM Re: "Historical" films [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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If you want the real story of the Kwai river bridge read "Ship of Ghosts: The Story of the USS Houston". Many survivors of Houston, and HMAS Perth, worked and died on the railway.


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I love this film, but it is filled with inaccuracies. It's Hollywood, though, so what the hell. Having to add an American as the hero, of course, was typical of the time. As far as I know, the U.S. had little to do with this. As a matter of fact, if I remember correctly, the bridges were destroyed by Australian B-24's. Don't quote me on that though. Great epic. By the way, as an aside, the screenplay was written by a French author who would later write "The Planet of the Apes."


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#4411531 - 03/19/18 07:05 PM Re: "Historical" films [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Did anyone here enjoy "The Patriot" with Mel Gibson? I distinctly remember watching about 30 minutes of that dung heap before I stopped the dvd. It was so full of blatant inaccuracies.


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#4411533 - 03/19/18 07:12 PM Re: "Historical" films [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Except for the fact that the colonists did fight the British in the American Revolution, I don't think that there is anything else historically accurate in the movie.


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I love "The Patriot", great movie. Not a great documentary however. Pretty much everything in the movie did happen, just not to one man.


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Originally Posted by Pooch
Except for the fact that the colonists did fight the British in the American Revolution, I don't think that there is anything else historically accurate in the movie.


I'm pretty sure the final battle in the movie is based on the "Battle of Cowpens".


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