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#4405318 - 02/15/18 06:43 PM "UFO" Over Oregon That Sent F-15s Scrambling  
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I haven't read much of this or watched the videos, listened to the audio so I have no opinion, just sharing.

FAA Recordings Deepen Mystery Surrounding UFO Over Oregon That Sent F-15s Scrambling


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Last November, The War Zone posted an exclusive story detailing a bizarre incident involving an unidentified aircraft that transited the skies of the Pacific Northwest in the early evening of October 25th, 2017. What started as a radar target moving at very high speed over Northern California turned into a series of eyewitness accounts made by nearby airline pilots traveling northward over Oregon. Even F-15 fighters were launched to intercept the mysterious intruder that quickly became invisible to radar. Now, through the Freedom of Information Act, we present what could be one of the most insightful instances of official documentation surrounding such an encounter that had already been confirmed to have occurred by both the FAA and the USAF. These materials include fascinating audio recordings of radio transmissions and phone calls made as the incident was unfolding, as well as pilot interviews, and conversations between FAA officials made in the aftermath of the highly peculiar incident.


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#4405319 - 02/15/18 06:49 PM Re: "UFO" Over Oregon That Sent F-15s Scrambling [Re: F4UDash4]  
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There is a 2 part X-Files episode that has a premise almost exactly as described in the quote.

"Tempus Fugit" and "Max" from season 4.


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#4405320 - 02/15/18 06:53 PM Re: "UFO" Over Oregon That Sent F-15s Scrambling [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Our government has known we're being visited by explorers from outside our solar system for a long time


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#4405322 - 02/15/18 06:55 PM Re: "UFO" Over Oregon That Sent F-15s Scrambling [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Haggart has been meeting up with Mulder and Scully too much. wink


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#4405329 - 02/15/18 07:19 PM Re: "UFO" Over Oregon That Sent F-15s Scrambling [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Just watched a oldish Press Conference at the Washington, DC press club, the vid's on Amazon. The people who spoke and gave sworn statements were all ex-Air Force ranging from senior sergeants to full bird Colonels. All held Top Secret and above security clearances and had retired or had been discharged honorably. They all had worked with either ICBM's or storage of nuclear weapons.

They ALL had incidents involving other-worldly craft and ALL stated that they were intelligently controlled aircraft unlike any they had ever seen, or heard of, or have seen since.

I found it quite hard to disbelieve such a group of men who all seemed to have been profoundly affected by their incidents and seemed quite rational.


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#4405352 - 02/15/18 08:00 PM Re: "UFO" Over Oregon That Sent F-15s Scrambling [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Good post Nixer

yea Panzer ! bananadance


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I am "agnostic" on UFO's / aliens. And I wouldn't post a link to any of the more "out there" claims that pop up often.


But the link in the OP isn't that sort of thing. It's either serious stuff or a very high level hoax or maybe it's perfectly explainable without "aliens".


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Same here, although I must say say that if these aircraft AREN'T of nonhuman origin, that'd be even more disturbing to me that such apparently advanced tech could be concealed and withheld.

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Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
Same here, although I must say say that if these aircraft AREN'T of nonhuman origin, that'd be even more disturbing to me that such apparently advanced tech could be concealed and withheld.



Only if they're not American. wink

Or Canadian, I'd be okay with that too! smile


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I'm not sure which side of the fence to jump over to on this stuff. Sometimes, as in a report like this, I do find myself going..".hmmmm...I wonder if it could really be!"
The possibility that it is our own Defense Department experiments doesn't work for me simply because, well, why would you take a top secret experimental aircraft and fly it into crowded airport airspace? Doesn't make sense.
And yet, I can't wrap my brain around little green men, either.


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Here's link to the vid I referenced on Amazon Prime....REALLY long.

These are almost all career Air Force guys, some of whom were warned of dire consequences if they ever talked. They all just think it's time for it to be told as they are all getting old.

Amazon video


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#4405391 - 02/16/18 12:46 AM Re: "UFO" Over Oregon That Sent F-15s Scrambling [Re: F4UDash4]  
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I'm unaware of civilian radio controlled aircraft that can operate at these altitudes. I suppose this would be a minor issue for dedicated actors, however. The speeds... maybe, but I've no idea how such altitude might impact model turbine performance.


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Ancient civilizations mention what could be called UFOs today.


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#4405430 - 02/16/18 11:57 AM Re: "UFO" Over Oregon That Sent F-15s Scrambling [Re: F4UDash4]  
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I"m sure the "History" Channel will have a sensationalized documentary about this incident before too long.


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If humans can put machines on other planets that drive themselves around imagine what a much older and intelligent alien civilization might accomplish ? Still think they can't pay us a visit even with their AI controlled exploration drones they are likely to have ? My friends - we are not alone it only feels that way because of the great distances of the Cosmos


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Originally Posted by Haggart
If humans can put machines on other planets that drive themselves around imagine what a much older and intelligent alien civilization might accomplish ? Still think they can't pay us a visit even with their AI controlled exploration drones they are likely to have ? My friends - we are not alone it only feels that way because of the great distances of the Cosmos



So essentially believing that something exists in the absence of hard empirical evidence.


Isn't that what we call "faith"? wink


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I have a hard time believing that aliens from any other system will be humanoid: bipedal, 5-fingered with recognisable facial features. Evolution just wouldn't provide for such a close match by random chance.


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I agree. The odds of similar evolutionary development is very unlikely. Possible, but very unlikely.

Long distance to come and then just flit around.

Very intriguing subject that could go either way depending on what weight of credence you give to the two viewpoints.


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I saw some random Youtube a few months ago that suggested a lot of these incidents are the product of the human psyche projecting archetypes onto something they can't understand. Way back in the distant past those archetypes were spirits & Gods, more recently they were religious experiences and miraculous events, and now we have spaceships & aliens. I might try to dig it up it was interesting.


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