There comes a time in WOFF pilot’s life when he starts asking questions. Where do I come from? Why does it burn when I pee? Why isn’t my rear gunner shooting? And, how do I tell the difference between the two SPAD models. The most obvious way is to count the number of Vickers being aimed at you. This is only slightly helpful, as you probably will never live long enough to tell. The engine of the XIII is more powerful than the VII’s, but since both models leave you far behind, the method may be less than reliable. So what’s left? External appearance, you say? Ok, let’s try that. XIII has an extra set of struts connecting the fuselage to the top plane. So, that’s one way. What else? XIII has a larger radiator. Good luck telling them apart that way. Might as well count the machine guns. Got anything else? Something big, easily distinguishable? Well yes, the rudder. They are totally different. Take a look at the picture below:
Totally different ... not! Something went wrong with SPAD VII model. Ok, never mind. Let’s look at the horizontal stabilizer and elevators: two different animals. Look:
Umm, I give up. Help!
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"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys, The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain, From out of my arse take the camshaft, And assemble the engine again."
Interesting find sir. Never noticed the above items. Course I am not (until now - trying again) been a big Spad guy due to the cockpit visibility. But this can be a matter of taste when you jump from one plane to another.
On another note I wish OBD would break out the different engines used during the operational lifetime of both aircraft. Same game model just with slightly different performance stats.
On another note I wish OBD would break out the different engines used during the operational lifetime of both aircraft. Same game model just with slightly different performance stats.
Would that matter? You'd still outrace anything else in the sky, while doing your best impression of a brick.
"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys, The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain, From out of my arse take the camshaft, And assemble the engine again."
Could not tell a Spad VII from a Spad VIII in a fight if I tried but if it burns when you pee, you might want to get that checked! As for myself, I come from the nowhere, I go to the no place. If I am at the Ranch, there is no place anything like this place, anywhere near this place, so......this must be the place!!
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"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys, The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain, From out of my arse take the camshaft, And assemble the engine again."
Thanks Mark, but what are you doing with a Coke? At this hour I should be making you spill a Bud all over your living room. Do you think the devs will be able to help with this burning issue?
"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys, The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain, From out of my arse take the camshaft, And assemble the engine again."
Interesting find sir. On another note I wish OBD would break out the different engines used during the operational lifetime of both aircraft. Same game model just with slightly different performance stats.
It will be Not exact the same model but I do like the idea. Also the 37mm gun Spad 12 and the two seater versions would be a great choice, minimal effort for ODB to create and max fun for players.
All very good point gentlemen and of course the humour is much appreciated. I considered this read my "morning smile" . Now, if you can pry the devs away from WOTR, you just might have a chance to see your suggestions come to fruition!
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Gentlemen, you are missing the point. I think SPAD VII's tail is modelled wrong. Compare the line drawing insert with the actual screen capture image of the model. You can clearly see it's not right. Hence my problem telling the difference between the two models. SPAD VII tail looks too much like the tail of SPAD XIII. New planes would be nice, but let's get right the ones we already have.
"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys, The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain, From out of my arse take the camshaft, And assemble the engine again."
Sorry, but I think there's about as much chance of that as MvR showing up for a meet and greet in the cornfield across the road from the brick factory this spring. Cheers, shredward
Sorry, but I think there's about as much chance of that as MvR showing up for a meet and greet in the cornfield across the road from the brick factory this spring. Cheers, shredward
Gentlemen, you are missing the point. I think SPAD VII's tail is modelled wrong. Compare the line drawing insert with the actual screen capture image of the model. You can clearly see it's not right. Hence my problem telling the difference between the two models. SPAD VII tail looks too much like the tail of SPAD XIII. New planes would be nice, but let's get right the ones we already have.
Oh I got it just fine but, I suspect, WOFF is on a back burner that is not even lit.
If you look at the SPAD7 rudder diagrams the tails are actually very similar in fact. The S7 has a slightly flatter top edge and the vertical fin is a tiny bit smaller If you look at the models there, you can see I did actually did make those OK. The back edge of the rudder should be straigher though.
The horizontals are the same on the models and they should be different. Maybe one day I'll fix it. But there's rather a list of stuff to get through before I can do anything anywhere else...
“One day” - that’s not never. Thanks Pol. Now about that burning sensation when I pee ...
"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys, The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain, From out of my arse take the camshaft, And assemble the engine again."