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#4403800 - 02/06/1803:34 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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Graphic detailing the complex choreography of launch and multiple stage and fairing recoveries:
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#4403804 - 02/06/1803:41 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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"There’s a lot that could go wrong,” Musk admitted. “A really tremendous amount. I really like to emphasize that the odds of success are not super high. I don’t want to jinx it—I’m tempted to say. Because I feel super optimistic. But I feel as though that optimism has no basis in fact. I feel like we’ve got a two-thirds chance of success, but in reality we only have a 50-50 chance.”
"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz
#4403808 - 02/06/1803:49 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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Now delayed until 3:45 due to high velocity upper atmospheric winds.
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#4403862 - 02/06/1807:03 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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00:01:06 Max Q (moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:29 Booster engine cutoff (BECO) 00:02:33 Side cores separate from center core 00:02:50 Side cores begin boostback burn 00:03:04 Center core engine shutdown/main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:03:07 Center core and 2nd stage separate 00:03:15 2nd stage engine starts 00:03:24 Center core begins boostback burn 00:03:49 Fairing deployment 00:06:41 Side cores begin entry burn 00:06:47 Center core begins entry burn 00:07:58 Side core landings 00:08:19 Center core landing 00:08:31 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:28:22 2nd stage engine restarts 00:28:52 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) Mission continues on an experimental long coast and third stage two burn to target a precessing Earth-Mars elliptical orbit around the sun
"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz
#4403863 - 02/06/1807:04 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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Just got back from trying to see it from the air. We flew two planes over with a few friends to watch it from outside the exclusion zone, but they delayed it. Darn.
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#4403866 - 02/06/1807:41 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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WOW, is this ever exciting. the biggest rocket to launch since a Saturn 5
3:45 Eastern. 2pm was almost an hour ago
"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz
#4403872 - 02/06/1807:59 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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They are moving so quickly with the BFR (Big Falcon Rocket) that they've decided to not, at this time, qualify the Falcon Heavy for launching crew, only cargo. That is amazing!
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Dana Hull, Bloomberg News: Hi, thanks so much for taking the call. Could you clarify for people who maybe haven't been following the Falcon Heavy's development closely how this fits in with plans to send tourists around the moon. From your instagram post today it sounds like the moon plan is maybe now the BFR and not Falcon Heavy?
Elon Musk: Yeah. What we decided internally is to focus our future efforts on BFR. Now we'll see how the BFR development goes. If that ends up taking longer than expected, then we'll return to the idea of sending a Crew Dragon on Falcon Heavy around the Moon. And potentially doing other things with crew on Falcon Heavy. But right now it looks like BFR development is moving quickly and it will not be necessary to qualify Falcon Heavy for crewed spaceflight. We could be ready to do short hops of the spaceship portion of BFR. BFR essentially consists of a giant booster and a giant spaceship. The giant spaceship is... once you're out of Earth's deep gravity well and thick atmosphere, for the rest of the solar system, you only need the ship. The giant booster is only needed for Earth, with its unusually deep gravity well and thick atmosphere. So our focus is on the ship, and we expect to hopefully do short flights on the ship, with the ship next year. You know, aspirational.
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Elon Musk: It's rather odd, I was looking at Falcon Heavy, and thinking...it's a bit small.
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Marcia Smith, SpacePolicyOnline: Thanks so much for taking my call. I was hoping you could expand a little bit on your earlier answer about flying people around the moon and the BFR versus the Falcon Heavy, I'm not so sure I followed all of that. You said that the BFR is a big rocket and a big spaceship, and the big spaceship is just a year or so away from flight, but you'd be flying on something other than the BFR rocket? And with respect to sending people around the moon.
Elon Musk: Yeah. Falcon Heavy is absolutely capable of sending a Crew Dragon, Dragon version 2 that's under development and that we'll fly later this year for NASA. With a single stick Falcon 9, it's easy for us to do Low Earth Orbit missions, or Medium Earth Orbit missions, and then as soon as you add Falcon Heavy on, we can toss Dragon way past the moon. It's actually further than we went with Apollo. Possibly even visit an asteroid or something like that. That was our plan until last year. Then we though, you know, maybe we can make this BFR development go faster than we thought, and if that's true, there won't be much point in qualifying Falcon Heavy for launching Dragon, making it fully man-rated. So we kind of tabled the crewed Dragon on Falcon Heavy in favor of focusing our energies on BFR. Um, BFR consists of two parts. One is the ship and the other is the booster. So there's BRB, the booster. Which is kind of true, because it will Be Right Back. The booster's going to come back and land in probably about ten minutes after liftoff. And then the ship, which is the hardest part, just by far the hardest part of the vehicle, of the BFR system, or interplanetary transport system. Because the ship has to have a heatshield that's capable of re-entering from very high velocities. From velocities way higher than... Basically interplanetary velocities, as opposed to orbital velocities. It's got to control itself through a wide regime, from everything from vacuum, to rarefied gas. Everything from thin atmosphere to thick atmosphere. Hypersonic, supersonic, transonic, subsonic. Different types of atmosphere, from different planets. And then land on unimproved terrain, and be able to take off from unimproved terrain. That's a pretty ridiculous set of requirements for the ship. That's why we're focusing on the ship first, because it's kind of the hard part. And then the BFB (should I say BFB or BRB?) BFB is we think that's pretty straightforward, because it's pretty much like a Falcon boost stage, but with like 31 engines instead of 9.
"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz
#4403873 - 02/06/1808:04 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz
#4403881 - 02/06/1808:20 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz
#4403887 - 02/06/1808:46 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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Same here. Breathing shallow too. Never been so on the edge of my seat for anything like this before. WOW. They did it!!!
"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz
#4403892 - 02/06/1808:59 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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Still waiting on the status of Falcon Heavy's center core landing...
Looked like it was on target when the camera went out. The only thing that could prevent it from being a good landing would be a failed landing leg deploy / lock or landing a bit too fast.
Regardless this was better than anyone could have hoped for .
"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz
#4403894 - 02/06/1809:03 PMRe: Maiden Launch of Falcon Heavy 02/06/18
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